Honey

Discussion in 'Health & Fitness' started by timojin, Sep 19, 2016.

  1. CptBork Robbing the Shalebridge Cradle Valued Senior Member

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    A couple tablespoons of bee vomit gives me a sickly sweet taste on my tongue which I immediately want to retch out for some other creature to eat and regurgitate even further. It appeals to me about as much as a cockroach salad, and I have yet to see any medical studies showing what's so special about it compared to countless other foods. Honey was very popular back in Biblical and medieval times, and I personally wish that's where it had stayed along with some of their other barbaric delicacies.
     
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  3. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    I suppose you eat eggs and ham ?
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Heh.

    Good point. If Cpt Bork is put off by bee vomit (which is one of the very few foods we eat that was not part of something previously alive), one would think he'd be all the more put off by eating anything at all that was previously alive. It's all guts and juices.

    What's left? Salt, water...
    What other things are edible that were not once on the inside of some living creature?
     
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  7. CptBork Robbing the Shalebridge Cradle Valued Senior Member

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    The meat and egg parts don't make contact with any fecal and gastric parts, all ensured during the butchering and cleaning phases. Furthermore, those things are far more similar to what naturally occurs inside a human being as opposed to what's found inside a bee's guts and all the nasty things a bee steps in before walking all over the honey it's making. I don't personally see what honey offers in flavour or texture that can't be easily replaced by vegetarian sources that don't smell like half-rotten corpses, which is hard to say for fresh meat and dairy products.

    The question was about the effects I feel from a couple of tablespoons of honey, and my answer is that I'm pissed off at anyone who uses it in their cooking under the assumption that it's universally enjoyed, when they only care to inform folks like myself after the bee puke is already gooing up our mouths, and with pseudoscientific quacks claiming without medical substantiation that it's somehow better than cane sugar or other sweeteners. I hate being presented with dessert menus where every single item is made with gobs of honey because the chef listened to advice from a bunch of health quacks, instead of using cheap and equally effective table sugar and other alternatives in at least one such item.
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Well, honey has always been a food since prehistory - it's not new.
    So, no quacks are needed to promote it.
    The onus lies on its opponents (i.e. you) to show how it might be unheathly. And do so in a way than is more substantive than 'it's icky'.
     
  9. CptBork Robbing the Shalebridge Cradle Valued Senior Member

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    As I duly noted, honey in its existing form has been procured and served throughout recorded history, a true barbarian delicacy. As far as health concerns, I'm not aware of any with regards to properly pasteurized honey, and never claimed it was worse than any other high-calorie sweetener, only that it offers no proven health benefits either and should therefore not be overly emphasized over things that don't make loads of people want to retch.

    I wouldn't go serving meat dishes to potential vegans without informing them of their full content first, I wouldn't use a touch of peanut butter in something and not check my guests for allergies, and I wish more barbarians understood that their love for slimy, sickly-sweet, ancient savage insect gut byproducts isn't universally shared either.
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    OK, well we're in agreement there.
     
  11. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    No doubt we can whip up a petrochemical concoction to suit your taste.

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  12. CptBork Robbing the Shalebridge Cradle Valued Senior Member

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  13. CptBork Robbing the Shalebridge Cradle Valued Senior Member

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    Cane sugar can be used for alcohol fuel production, so it provides many environmental benefits in contrast to the destructive effects of bee farming. However, in its freshly-harvested form, sucrose from sugar cane isn't a petrochemical. Likewise, maple trees and corn can be used as valuable industrial energy sources, but their syrup alone is far more valuable than the sickly-sweet, primitive savage barbarian bee puke some people here still swear by. If calories are a concern, sweeteners such as sucralose, aspartame and stevia are available, none of which are made from dino or insect fossils/poop/vomit.
     
  14. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Uhm... you are joking, right? What "destructive effects of bee farming" are you referring to? Certainly not the continued pollination (and by extension, existence) of a large portion of our current foodcrops and other plants?
     
  15. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    If you read my post, I was referring to the flavour and texture of honey, not the sweetening effect.
     
  16. Goliathus Registered Member

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    Most of the honeys u have in store is i beleive not so healthy. Because of the added sugar. Reallyy like legit honey tho :]
     
  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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  18. Goliathus Registered Member

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    Sure, they are suppose to do it but nobody is really doing that.
     
  19. Orinda Fernandez Registered Member

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    I take honey regularly (with ACV) regularly. Seems to address my bloating issues, or is it psychological?
     
  20. Goliathus Registered Member

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    Honey can help, sure.
     
  21. AshtonAsh Registered Member

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    2 spoons honey is great in the morning on empty stomach. I know that it is bad to add honey in the hot water. Emit harmful substances
     
  22. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Pardon what is ACV . I have honey every day in the last 4 months I feel ok
     
  23. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    If you say so.
    Not, that I am aware of. What harmful substance is emitted from warm fructose and glucose?
     

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