How Should People Interpret 'UFO'?

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by Yazata, Jan 16, 2017.

  1. river Valued Senior Member

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    Yes it is .

    Extraordinary speeds , fast or slow , to the extreme , is evidence of a UFO.

    Not really .

    Extreme speed and the ability for an enormous object to hover , is just plain , reality.


    Official stance ? Interesting , refer to authority ? When the authority dedacts information , from official documents.


    The contact between species is seperated by time and distance ? Define both .
     
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    No, could be simply illusions, delusions, mirages etc...in fact judging speeds is really difficult as you and MR have been told before.
    No, see previous reply.

    Yep, certainly really, its an extrordinary claim and requires extraordinary evidence, not some half baked second hand report or blurry photo.
    Again, see first reply...illusions, delusions, mirages etc and the general inability to judge speeds, oh, and I nearly forgot, secret military aircraft and even not so secret military aircraft.



    You have no evidence of such silly conspiracies.

    self explanatory.
     
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  5. river Valued Senior Member

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    Prove that radar misjudges speeds .
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Don't be silly river...like you I'm an amateur and have no access to radar equipment.
    Instead, you show me extraordinary evidence of any of your claimed thousands of visitations.
     
  8. river Valued Senior Member

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    prove radar misjudges speeds
     
  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Like you, I can't river, we are both amateurs without access to that equipment as I already said.
    But even local Police RADAR guns are at times shown to be faulty.
    But what you still need to do is discover some extraordinary evidence to support that any Alien has ever visited Earth......
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Radar misjudges speed all the time. A classic case is trying to get a radar return from a propeller or rotor. The radar sees the advancing and retreating blades as going different speeds, and will often give you an erroneous return somewhere between the two speeds. Another case is a nearby jammer that is operating at almost the same frequency. The radar will often see the jammer as Doppler shift of its own return, and report a wildly incorrect speed.

    Then there are the more standard problems - parallax error, locking on the incorrect object, drift in the frequency reference of the radar.
     
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  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Not to mention the fact that the shape and orientation of targets dramatically affects the strength of the echo.
    A target can go from strong blip to virtually nothing simply by turning 90 degrees.
    And if another target nearby turned broadside at the wrong moment, the radar will see an object disapper from one point and reappear at a different point.
    Sounds familiar...

    No, radar is a tool, and in the right application it is effective, but it is far, far from unequically accurate.
     
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  12. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    LOL! Normal people hallucinate ufos. Now radars hallucinate them too even though they accurately track flying objects everyday in thousands of airports all over the world..What else shall we throw out the window just to deny ufos? The science of photography? Maybe cameras and cellphones hallucinate discs flying in the sky too!

    http://www.ufocasebook.com/bestufopictures.html
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You LOL at known facts about a very well-understood technology.

    Perhaps it would help your understanding if you spoke to any radar technician or flight control operator.
     
  14. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    I was a radar technician in the Navy. I maintained the Precision Approach Radar for two training air bases near Kingsville Texas. I never encountered any of the glitches you refer too. As long as the radar was checked daily and weekly calibrated, it was accurate and very reliable. We passed many impromptu flight checks by the FAA too thanks to my work.
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Good. Then you kmow that, under favorable circmstances radar is a great tool, but that it is not wholly reliable. That false readings and all sorts of inaccuracies, as mentioned, are indisputable facts of the techology and its use.
     
  16. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    No..as long as is it calibrated and maintained daily it is very reliable. Reliable enough to land jets on a runway too.
     
  17. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. Really.

    Indeed. And cars are reliable too. Anyone can put several thousand miles on a smooth road without a mishap. But all technology - and all operators of technology - do fail to operate perfectly.

    This is not really a debate. Radar is not infallible by any stretch. Nor are radar operators. You cannot claim they are and still try to maintain credilibility.
     
  19. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Radars are not infallible. Cars are not infallible. But they are very reliable pieces of technology that serve their purposes very well. Go to radar school like I did and THEN come back and tell me how unreliable they are.
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I accept your concession.

    Everything back to and including post #149 was unnecessary.
     
  21. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Then you retract this statement?

    "radar is a great tool, but that it is not wholly reliable."
     
  22. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You mean the one you just conceded too?

    We agree.

    How many times can you contradict yourself on the same page?
     
  23. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    So you agree they are entirely reliable or not?
     

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