How to make a sustained fusion reaction

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  1. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    • Please don't post nonsense. If you're serious, be sure to explain why you think your proposal would work, and how it would work. If you're not serious, please don't attempt to troll the forum.
    Take all elements below iron and place them in an iron box.

    world energy crisis averted
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Asked and answered in another thread.
    (Still no, BTW.)
    Also, does not qualify for Alt Theory forum.
     
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  5. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    No it wasn’t answered. All that was answered is that the elements would probably react, but seeing as most are minerals I still have my doubts
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    This is not an Alt Theory. Post your thoughts in Free Thoughts - a more appropriate forum.
     
  8. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    It is an explanation of natural events that can be tested. Which fits the definition of a theory.
    There is also no place for theories on this site either otherwise I would put it there.

    so that’s my theory
     
  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Look up the rules for the Alt Theory forum. It's not like other fora.
    You have an obligation to describe your theory and show how it explains some aspect of observed nature, and defend it when challenged.
    So far, you haven't even described a theory, let alone showed what it explains.
     
  10. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    Your willing to stake a bet that it wouldn’t explain fusion to a better degree than we know it now. All elements from 0 to iron naturally undergo fusion. So this leads me to theorize we have gained information from the universe and not put it to proper use. A Hammond conjecture.
     
  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    None of the above follows from your OP.

    Regardless, it is hard to trust that you are being serious about this, considering how similar it is with your recent posting history. I think that I will leave you to it. Maybe someone else will take this bait.
     
  12. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    How does none of the above not follow from the OP?

    what am I missing that can change your epistemology? Should I have said above iron? Is that more clear? Below in numerology? Why do you reject these notions? It’s not scientific to reject what I have to say for no reason.

    if you roll a wheel that is exactly pie over the periodic table of elements you will find it almost always hits the elements mass.
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    The reason is because what you are saying is not scientific. Why would the rejection need to be?

    If you said: "What is the taste of the colour 9?" anyone would be free to reject it without resorting to a scientific analysis.
     
  14. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    Because you can’t say why. You can’t say when. You can’t say who. You can’t say what… is not (scientific) you can’t say where is not…

    Who. What. When. Where. And why? You have only failed yourself because I can answer all five.

    albert Einstein declared a simple exploration is the best. He never had the information I have now (what and when) . Why? Because I care to find answers
     
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  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    So ask a meaningful question.

    Your OP doesn't even contain a question.

    So it's simply a set of statements that, together, are non sequitur.
     
  16. Janus58 Valued Senior Member

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    No, all elements up to Fe56 will produce a net gain of energy ( by a decreasing factor as you get closer to Iron.), but it still takes extreme conditions to initiate that fusion. You also have elements heavier than Iron that produce net energy through fission, but do not naturally undergo fission.
     
  17. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Funny how nobody ever thought of that before you.
     
  18. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    I’ll be absolutely laughing in my grave if things keep going this well. I’m 31
     
  19. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    Individually yes

    yet in a supernova everything except iron undergoes fission and fusion by my logical calculation.

    iron is how we calculate the age of stars
     
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    Beaconator , keep going . Until proven otherwise . No reason to abandon your thinking . Continue .

    river .
     
  21. Janus58 Valued Senior Member

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    How is a supernova not "extreme conditions"? A supernova is caused by a large star building up an Iron core* until it gets large enough that it collapses under its own weight. The remaining layers of the Star fall into the void left converting Gravitational potential energy into kinetic. When all this material meets at the center, This energy initiates a fusion explosion with enough energy to fuse all kinds of element. In other words, you still need the extreme conditions caused by the collapsing star to trigger the fusion.

    * Something that can only happen at the types of pressures and temperatures found in the cores of large stars. Our own Sun will never generate an Iron core. It isn't massive enough. The heaviest element it will produce is Carbon.
     
  22. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    I find it hard to believe there is no iron in our sun….

    I’m not aiming to make fission and fusion at the same time thus there is no need for extreme conditions. But you probably could by putting every element in an iron box, and that would be dangerous I’m sure you would agree.
     
  23. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    I’ve tried to disprove my ideas myself and done so enough to refine them into what they are here. Thank you for the strong words of encouragement
     
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