How to spot a bastard

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  1. ajanta Registered Senior Member

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    ..............DNA test.

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  3. birch Valued Senior Member

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    Nope, nope, just no. Read between the lines. Women may seek or be susceptible or vulnerable at times to stray due to certain issues in relationship but they tend to not do it just for the sake of 'have my cake and eat it too' philosophy men have been infamous for.
     
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  5. birch Valued Senior Member

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    I am not the only female on planet earth who thinks most men (relationship-wise) are bastards.

    Besides, women who deal with the same issues with other men are not my type either. It is across the board, not a single type.

    Did you just get this memo?
     
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  7. birch Valued Senior Member

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    I had to chuckle at the 'babe in the woods' mr. Innocent routine.

    'I didnt know men were prone to cheating? Really? Shocking.'

    'Men are dogs? Never heard that one either'. Horrible male hatred, thats what that is because ive never cheated, therefore most men dont either logic.
     
  8. birch Valued Senior Member

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    To set the record straight, i am not really trying to take any side. Come on, how to spot a bastard by star sign?

    Im not trying to fix any problem either with any gender or that one gender is a saint vs a sinner. This is because it is just a power issue that plays out and it would most likely result in women (generally) just as equally abusing power or priviledges if the scales were tipped too far in their direction as well.

    I am aware why this occurs in a 'majority' situation either way is because most people tend to be self-centered as well as either immature and/or unethical and age, race, country, and gender have nothing to do with it.
     
  9. ajanta Registered Senior Member

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    And what do you think, most men((relationship-wise) that you think) who are bastards gonna get smart girlfriends(not stupids) ?
     
  10. birch Valued Senior Member

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    Today? Isnt that reversed? More like women today have more independence, and therefore do not have to stay in relationships just for financial security. This would have the effect of more sexual freedom and female infidelity increasing. Also, people are more transient and have more opportunities to meet people they never would otherwise today. The major point is female infidelity and cheating today is not stigmatized as harshly as in times past.

    I dont understand it. It was in previous generations where it was even considered acceptable and a foregone conclusion for a married man to have mistresses and further back, literal harems.

    This is odd. Just about every person who made privy their family history of a previous generation was structured where their fathers were oppressive and their mothers had to accept her husbands infidelity, she stayed for the kids, or he left her and family for another woman or something along those lines. Or their marriage was not happy but people stayed together more often back then no matter what, even if it was toxic as if toxic was acceptable. She depended on him for security and back in the day, women would be more harshly judged where a man is just being a man.
     
  11. ajanta Registered Senior Member

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    Men(who are most bastards) + Women(who are most stupids/haven't common sense )
     
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    I have to laugh because some of the most professional and elitist of women who think they are so smart are either the dumbest or most naive of women ive found. When i get into a relationship, the guy may eventually cheat but im going to get mine and they will do for me. I learned long ago if a man does not want to give to you, hes not into you. When the love goes or cheating is found, im out. Ive seen them get taken or used for money and get the run-around like its nobodys business to the point of embarassment. They also tend to stay the 'longest' in such situations which is surprising. They tend to lack better intuition or gut instincts and either dont suspect or dont investigate until its close to or literally in their face. They will do just about anything to keep the man including co-signing for large purchases and agree to large loans. These women are a decade or more older too. My ex when we were together related to me once how he was discussing me with an older female doctor (he works in medical field) and how he told her with a straight face that he was not cheating on me and believed him soley from how sincere he seemed. Thats naive or just stupid. Of course he was and i obtained the proof with tracking app among other things.

    I know this woman who is very arrogant and owns a restaurant, two houses and is an attorney. Not only did she marry her cheating husband once but twice, even after finding out he fathered a child by another woman. She even offered to help raise the child. The cheating continued all throughout their marriage. She divorced him twenty years later. Ok? I would have been out one, two years max.

    Once i was at a nightclub and met this high-power executive. We got to talking about our lives and background. He was married but hitting on me as if it was just normal. Like he does this all the time and how he has a mistress who also is married and he gives them money to help them out like the couple are his kids. They (he and his wife) were both of ivy league background. Respectable? I was disgusted at the perverted pretense of normalcy.

    The fact of the matter is, at the end of the day they are just women and susceptible to the sweet-talk, flattery and false promises of men just the same.

    There are women who put up with far worse shit than i do and its their choice. Even the ex-wife of my ex stayed with him ten years and she is also a professional or she definitely has a higher position than i do. His family told me he sometimes would take off for a week and disappear toward the end of their marriage ( because i was complaining about a few hours unaccounted for) and she still didnt divorce him but was getting close. Really? He never pulled a stunt like that with me because he knew that would be the end so fast he wouldnt know what hit him.
     
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    I just find the pretense amusing. Anyone living life knows this is a corrupt world. Yeah it has its good but bad or worse is right along side everywhere. You can just scratch your nails over the surface and its like paint chipping off that easy to easily see dirt.

    Also socioeconomic status or high intelligence does not have anything to do with good character or fidelity. Some of the most intelligent people can be corrupt. Did you forget the lying politician? He got to that position due to his intelligence cuz it sure usually not their looks or sex appeal but that doesnt make them better relationship candidates except for their bank account or connection, do they? So whats the difference between a scumbag in a three-piece suit that heads to the corporate office everyday vs a scumbag with his pants hanging down?

    I know so many so-called respectable people through my family connection and they are not good or better people! They are just people with the same shit, weaknesses and vices and liars like anyone else. They just make more money, live in better houses and drive better cars! Thats it!

    I know women stories and even met some of their ex-spouses or boyfriends that are not the 'player' stereotype and they were just as bad men or worse!

    I just gave some real life examples above all of which according to many people here would superficially have been a wiser choice just because they dont appear to be an african american player??? You see they were scumbags of men no matter what education, looks, race or socioeconomic status!

    Are you fuking kidding me?? Like you all dont know that. Bullshit.

    My father was a cheating asshole of a philanderer and high social status. So what? His money or ambition did not make him a better man.

    And whats laughable is very superficially there seems to be a lame assumption that a physical lack of looks or desirable aesthetic qualities and a more modest mainstream appearance and demeanor in a male means the latter is of better character. An assumption based on looks and demeanor. Like a preppy appearing dude cant be an asshole, cheater or a snake in the grass. Unbelievable.

    Have any of you ever looked at those dating or hookup sites? Well they are filled with pages and pages of unassuming average to ugly looking men that look like your next door neighbor or church member in a polo and khakis and they are as sneaky, corrupt, immoral pieces of male human filth cheating on wives and girlfriends just the same! Like you all didnt know that. Like you dont know or ever met a cheater and they come in all flavors and socioeconomic status. Pfft.
     
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    I find it so ironic how so many members here attack Birch for being honest, how hypocritical. You claim she is not intelligent but yet she is amongst the most intelligent of women I have ever heard speak. At least honest...

    My mother is married to a multi millionaire, as to my knowleged he has never cheated on her. But is my mother in love, I will not comment...

    At least she (Birch) passes a test in which I see many many people fail and that is bieng honest with yourself.
     
  16. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    People are not in control of who they are attracted to, it's really sad though becuase not all relationships are meant to be are meant to last forever, but some obviously do.
     
  17. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    The reason why the divorce rate is rising has a lot to do with dishonesty and that goes beyond infedelity.

    Just people insulting each others intelligence; Facades, cliches, there are no more people anymore you see why society is sick... We all might as well be walking around with masks on.
     
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  18. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    At the end of the day I guess what a person needs to ask themselves is do I want to live a lie? Do I want to look someone in the eyes everyday and lie to them including that someone that looks back at you in the mirror. If that is not that important to you then many other things in relation to that would not be as well.
     
  19. BrianHarwarespecialist We shall Ionize!i Registered Senior Member

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    Well anyways as technology invades our minds honesty must take a higher position on the priority list because it's not going to be long until other people "civilians" have access to the literal thoughs of other civilians. Maybe not in our generation but it's coming in some form obviously with limitations in the forseable future.
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps you missed the thread where she explained how she goes for guys for their attractiveness and alphaness - knowing perfectly well these are the same people who will hurt her.

    And then she calls them bastards.

    That is not honesty.

    No, but they are in control of what they do about it.

    She is not being honest with herself. She is being self-destructive (which is OK), but then she is shirking responsibility - instead choosing to blame others.

    I was sympathetic too, even when she confessed to deliberately making this choice. That's OK too. But it's hypocritical to blame it on someone else when she knows perfectly well what's she's doing.
     
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  21. ajanta Registered Senior Member

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    Simply, now a days most of us wanna involve in relationship but not wanna learn about it first perfectly and they are not already learned. So they are involved in it but their musings are different kind of. Love shouldn't go wrong but there is something happening about their love(practical form).
     
  22. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Argument by popularity.

    Whether or not other women think men are bastards, it's not for you to say - since you hurt yourself. That doesn't make them bastards, that makes you a martyr.


    Look, you're hurting, I get it. But take responsibility for it. Finger-pointing and name-calling is what children do. You're not a child.

    Your'e hurting because you're hurting yourself, not because men are bastards.
     
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  23. birch Valued Senior Member

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    I thought you people were intelligent. I get attacked for just being honest. For just stating what im attracted to and the fact most relationships dont last anyways unless you are willing to compromise continually.

    Furthermore, how did i not take responsibility? I left. Also, i said i would preferably not get seriously involved by moving in and keep my own residence the next time. Dont want to get that serious. But this got very serious with the whole marriage talk, family involvement, the works.

    And if anyone could read between the lines is the ones you love will have the greater power to hurt you the most. Duh? Doesnt have anything to do with being an asshole or not. There are assholes out there that would have no affect on me. So the lame solution according to many here is to date someone who is less likely to hurt you which means you are not that in love with. Well, thats not me. And no, i didnt know they were going to hurt me as it could be the love of your life. The sense of greater danger comes from the fact you know you could fall deeply. Its the chance you take.

    Whats funny is i present a tongue-in-cheek, bitter humor take written by OTHER women and basically people are upset i just brought some news, pretending i only think this or that. Like there arent men who think women are bitches or whores or whatever. What do i really care? I dont know them.
     
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