human evolution

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by black mask, Jul 22, 2016.

  1. black mask Registered Member

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    Do u think some extra gene was added with ape to make us evolve?
    What parts of our gene most differ with ape?
    Thanks 4 discussion
     
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  3. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    What do you mean by "added"?
     
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  5. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    The same thought occurred to me.

    Black Mask, you also need to ask the question "Do you think some extra gene was added to the brother of the ancestral ape from which humans sprung, to produce the apes of today?"

    The apes we evolved from were the same apes the chimpanzee and gorilla evolved from. They differed as much from today's apes as do we. I wonder if you were aware of this, or had thought about it.

    If by "added" you mean, appeared through mutation, then many genes were added to that ancestral ape to lead to todays human. And different genes were added to that ancestral ape to produce the gorilla and the bonobo and the chimpanzee and the orang utan.
     
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  7. black mask Registered Member

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    Like something or some one messed with our DNA to create more intelligent being.
    An advance race. Maybe!!
     
  8. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    No.
     
  9. black mask Registered Member

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    We were under the same environment(ape's and us).then how did our mutation became so different than theirs.
     
  10. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    We weren't actually. Apes stayed in forests and we inhabited the savanna. So we got good at walking on two legs. Then learning to hunt and switch to a calorie rich diet that included lots of meat changed us completely.
     
  11. black mask Registered Member

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    Lions eat meat too.did they change also?
     
  12. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    Biological evolution suggests suggests changes in species' genetic codes, yes.

    If by "was added" you are suggesting that the changes were conscious and intentional, written by some great genetic software writer in the sky or by space aliens in the distant past, I'll say no.

    I'm not sure. I'm currently reading an 'evo-devo' book about humans' evolutionary ancestry, but am only at the origins of the chordates in Cambrian times point. (And the book is more comparative-anatomical than genomic.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_developmental_biology

    But just intuitively, humans have leg and hip changes conducive to bipedal posture and greatly expanded brain power. We have a language instinct that apes don't have, enabling much greater social cooperation and capability for abstract reasoning.

    I don't know what differences in the genome are responsible for those differences.
     
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  13. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know if they had an ancestor that didn't eat meat, but if so, yes.
     
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  14. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Well if that occurred we would have to imagine that someone messed with the DNA of early ammonites to create ammonites that were larger and ammonites that could prosper in a more varied range of environments, and that someone messed with the DNA of some terrestrial mammals until they had changed into whales. That's an awful lot of messing!
     
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  15. black mask Registered Member

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    They could have messed after abducting a no. Of apes? Or they might have visited us in past during dawn of our evolution.finding that we had the almost same sequence and they just speed up the process or added some spice to it.anyhow,what are the chances of two brothers,one walking on feet and one flying in the sky.
     
  16. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Why baboons did not evolve to walk on two they did not claim tree , they hunted and gathered food of the ground ?
     
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  17. black mask Registered Member

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    So if an organism starts to walk on two feet they somehow develop intelligence?
     
  18. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    He could not climb on an apple tree so he learned how to stand in his feet to pick apples , and so he got accustomed to walk on two
     
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  19. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    They still need to escape predators by climbing trees. Humans had intelligence. They built shelters, weapons, and had fire.
     
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  20. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Not necessarily, but this marked the beginning of changes from an ape lifestyle to something different. Apes are very intelligent already.
     
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  21. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Predators usually live in the savanna. So you are talking at the split from common ancestor or a period after ( millions of years ) they become intelligent and made weapons ?
     
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  22. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    After humans became (more) intelligent. It's unclear exactly why this happened, maybe it was language, maybe it was ingestion of psychedelic mushrooms, or tool use, or the ability to throw things, or fire leading to better nutrition, or a lifestyle change where we scavenged for bone marrow, there are many theories. But we do know there were climatic changes happening at the time, with life having to adapt to new conditions.
     
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  23. black mask Registered Member

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    Thank u guys
     

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