Humour in defining the word "faith" and the situation in 2021?

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  1. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Let's look at some of the humour that I think is there is the conflict over how to define words like "faith."

    For example....I have much, much, much less faith in the vaccines for COVID 19 at this time than many of my friends have:

    Some of my personal and online friends take the angle that I am an ignorant and overly religious red neck because I am not entirely thrilled with the idea of making my appointment to go get either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine as soon as possible.

    In actuality I am conflicted over the whole question............

    ... somewhat like how I am conflicted over even how to define faith?!

    Many Christians would tend to find my belief in the idea that YHWH "evolved" or learned over infinite time in the past as terribly offensive and perhaps even heretical?!

    I admit that my relatively high level of "faith" in the idea that YHWH is working out some sort of "Red Sea" type of event in 2021 results in my having much less faith in either Pfizer and / or Moderna but.........

    ..... there is a possibility that I may be doing a discussion soon in which I admit to having been vaccinated... .but I am not sure yet.... and I am asking my wife what she wants to do????????

    Whatever she decides... I am tempted to follow her example?????

    Was this a stupid comparison??????

    If so.. .my apologies... .but I thought you might rather like this.
     
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  3. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    This should give you an idea of what I am attempting to get at by all of my ramblings on this general topic.
     
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  5. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Are people that get vaccinated like unbelievers or something and like where would that lead?
     
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  7. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Some Christians and some Jews might well answer yes to that question.......

    but my wife and I don't think of that question is such a dogmatic and simplistic manner. Our kids are mostly all in Ontario and we want to move there soon so if we need to be vaccinated in order to move to Ontario..... then we have to make a judgment call within our set of circumstances.

    I personally believe that it is a good idea to delay and delay and delay taking whatever vaccine is available until there is at least a serious offer in on our home here in Nova Scotia. There are so few cases in our province that there is very little pressure on us to make that decision over the next two weeks.... but we are talking about it.
     
  8. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I will start my own religion.

    In that I get money by telling people they have an excuse to be lazy, and that only the truly faithful i.e. more money have that excuse.
     
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  9. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    It is possible that many of us who are not thrilled with the vaccines at this present time just read material on the topics that other people are too emotionally involved in this topic to even be able to look at or think about.

    https://www.deconstructingconventio..._klWzRwCWB0HNEPepa3i0kRn62TTNbX5N8f5MgQQWmEy8

    18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
    Updated: Apr 19

     
  10. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus F'ing Christ!

    How many people in the US have died from Covid 19 and you're throwing me this crap.
     
  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Huh. If infection rates climb again, and another 100,000 people die - will you be proud of your contribution to that? Will you pat yourself on the back, and think "hey, I helped that happen! I'm pretty important and influential!"
     
  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    what is the whole question ?

    what pre existing medical conditions do you have
    ?

    how tall are you & how much do you weigh
    ?

    making humour of millions of people dying is nothing new or unique
    like people making jokes about the holocaust, ebola, zika, polio, malaria, mental illness Tuberculosis etc ...

    i am curious why you have posted this in the arts & culture "humour" section when your insinuating making humour or sick & dying people.

    maybe you are testing the mods to see if they will ban you ?
    i suspect your thread will be destined for the cesspool

    but i am curious about your pre existing medical conditions height weight
    & what fears you have around vaccines

    will you be making any jokes about anti-abortionists ? (i look forward to reading some of those)

    what did the anti abortionist prey to god for ?
    communism !

     
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  13. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    how do you get a committee of anti abortionists in 1 room ?(go to their communist commune/trailer park?)
    you cant,
    they are to busy stealing all your food & taxes to feed their countless children while your at work.




    a gun rights activist & an anti abortionist are at a bar
    an Irish man walks in & says
    you two fuck off this is a civilized place
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    a closeted preacher with children & an unsatisfied wife asks his boyfriend

    what do you prey for when you go to bed at night ?

    his boyfriend replys "faith"
     
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  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    an Amish & evangelical christian are sitting in a working class tax payer funded free family health planning clinic waiting for their pregnant teenage daughter's who have both got STD's to be treated
    and the Amish man asks the evangelical christian
    "how do you make ends meet in this world controlled by money ?"
    the evangelical christian turns & points at the orthodox jew walking in & says "ask that guy he should know"
    so the Amish stands up & asks the orthodox jew
    "how do you make ends meet in this world controlled by money?"

    and the orthodox jew reply's "have faith, and vote republican, if you vote republican long enough there will be no more taxes so everything will be cheaper"
     
  16. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Because there is more than one side to this question........

    I am interested though in if the nation of Israel has actually achieved something like herd immunity.......
    if so then that would be a promising sign that the Pfizer vaccine is fairly effective....


    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56722186

     
  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    • The image you tried to post
    and
    • your logic about Covid vaccines
    share one glaring commonality:


    You're the only one who can see them.
     
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  18. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    It seems disappointing that so much emphasis has been on vaccines and effective treatments
    have not gotten the attention that they seem to deserve.



    Ivermectin treatment caused 'amazing improvement': Melbourne COVID patients
     
  19. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Not sure where you got that. Convalescent plasma has been a huge factor in the survival of many people with serious cases of COVID, as have monoclonal antibodies. Corticosteroids like dexamethazone have improved survival in severe cases, as have antivirals like remdesivir.

    Needless to say, vaccines are far, far more effective in preventing COVID-19. But the treatments listed above have been in use for between six and twelve months, and were once the only effective treatments for severe COVID-19. If you haven't heard about them - you haven't been paying attention.
     
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  20. candy Registered Senior Member

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    Most of the treatments available tend to treat the symptoms not the virus.
    The best treatment is not getting the virus; if you can have the vaccine get it instead of covid.
     
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  21. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you for this informative reply.........

    Here is more information about my situation:

    ..... "I was told something very interesting about the vaccines just today by a good friend........

    I made the statement that my wife and I are discussing whether or not to get the Pfizer vaccine and we stated that the vaccines were rushed..... and we are not totally thrilled with them but.........

    since my wife's parents already got their Pfizer shot and had no really nasty reaction..........

    this of course has us taking Pfizer more seriously.

    Anyway... my friend replied that a doctor in British Colombia stated that these vaccines actually were being prepared for the last twenty years........

    ... as a vaccine for a previous version of COVID was being researched........

    so these vaccines were NOT as rushed as I had assumed even as of yesterday?!"

    ...... So...... my wife and I may well report within days or weeks that we may have gotten our vaccination even though we do have some reservations..........

    For the record I am not in complete agreement with the article that I gave the link to in post number six above..... but I did agree with his first two major points at least........

    My wife and I have our house listed with a real estate company and we plan on moving to somewhere near Toronto, Ontario, Canada so that we are with the majority of our children and grandchildren so............ obviously we have to consider that the vaccination would probably make moving 2000 miles or so easier and faster.
     
  22. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Since 1999 I found out a lot about boosting my immune system so that I hardly ever get colds and flu and allergies like I did back before that time.

    I do feel that I have already taken a number of quite effective measures to boost my immune system which is one of the many reasons why I felt less pressure to hurry in making a decision over the next days or weeks.

    In 1996 I had pneumonia in one lung... in 1997 and 1998 I got bronchitis that had all the same symptoms......
    and strangely enough it was in August - September that this happened.

    I found out some things in 1999 that helped to result in my never again having either pneumonia or bronchitis and it is now even rare for me to get a flu or cold or allergies.

    I had a sore throat in July of 2020 and got the COVID 19 test.... I was negative....... I boosted the nutritional substances that I feel boosted my immune system since 1999 and I haven't had to have another Covid 19 test since then.
     
  23. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Kinda like putting more effort into treating car accident victims and less into not crashing into other cars?
     
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