I can move any megalithic stone on hundreds of tons with physics

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  1. BlockOut Registered Member

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    I could my self move any megalithic stone in the world.
    I have always wondered why they cut the larger stones with so flat surfaces already in the stone quarry.
    This is why......
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    Just give me about 100 liter of mercury and I will build a narrow fit channel , for any large megalithic stone,
    and build the channel in maybe clay,
    so that front of the channel have room for the stone to be able to float in to a bit
    and be moved the larger amount of mercury under the stone as the mercury is transfered under and beside the stone to the back.
    Then I gather the mercury, fill in behind the stone with clay and dig up in front of it,
    to be able to make the stone to float and pushed another bit in my channel of mercury tight clay.

    I am sick of all this nonsens of magic or aliens.

    I say it again.
    I can move any megalithic stone my self , if I just get some 100 liters mercury or more,
    to make the stone to float.


    Anyone here that can tell me otherwize ?


    Master of Science in Engineering Physics.
    Magnus Ivarsson / Sweden
     
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  3. Neddy Bate Valued Senior Member

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    How do you move the mercury? It is quite dense.
     
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  5. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    No one thinks it was aliens or magic.
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    And I can fly to the Moon on gossamer wings.
    Unless you tell me I have to prove it.
     
  8. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Ànd you thought this would be interesting why?

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  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    where did they get all the mercury from and where is that mercury today ?
    and how did they move the stones up & down hills
    & how did they lift the stones
    considering some of them are 60 tonnes
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. Let's do the math!

    1 liter of mercury = about 30 lbs
    100 liters of mercury = about 3000 lbs

    200 ton block = 400,000 lbs

    To float something you need to displace its weight in the fluid. So to float a 400,000 lb stone you'd need at least 400,000 lbs (30,000 liters) of mercury.
    Can you get a refund?
     
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  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Wait. No. That's not right.
    You don't need to have 400,000lbs. of mercury in order to displace 400,000lbs of stone.
    Just like you don't need to start with 1 kg of water to displace a 1kg cube of plastic or wood.

    Say a 1kg cube of mahogany (.5g/cm³) is 12.6cm on a side.
    Get/build a rigid cubical container that is 12.7cm on a side.
    Pour 48g of water (1g/cm³) in the container.
    Drop the mahogany cube in.
    That 48g of water will rise up half way up the container and suspend the 1kg mahogany cube in a 1mm thin envelope of water - including floating 1mm (or thereabouts) off the bottom.

    In fact, if you did start with 1kg of water, when you dropped the cube in, 900-and-change grams of water will overflow the container and leave the system anyway.

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    Anyway, the OP's idea still fails on a number of levels. I'm imagining moving the megalith at 6 inches per hour, as the OP digs out six inches of embankment in front of the megalith and fills it in at the back. He can't do any more than a few inches at a time, because he doesn't have enough mercury to fill a larger basin.
     
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  12. Neddy Bate Valued Senior Member

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    Just freeze some water in a paper cup, and then take it out of the freezer, and let it thaw awhile. Even a thin layer of liquid underneath the ice should let the ice float. That's just because ice is less dense than water.
     
  13. BlockOut Registered Member

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    You need to learn basic physics.
    Try to understand this.

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    MagI
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  14. BlockOut Registered Member

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    Just like boats i channels.
    But they maybe used mercury as fluid.

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    Regards from Sweden
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  15. BlockOut Registered Member

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    I just see this event in front of me.

    Hundreds of years ago people found mercury and they could see that the most heavy stones floated in mercury.

    So they started floating bigger and bigger stones, just by curiosity.

    Then some king said he wanted a house of large stones.

    And it ended with stones in balbeck.



    Regards from Sweden

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  16. BlockOut Registered Member

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    In ceramic bottles probably ......


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  17. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Aside.

    Mercury-Copper-whatever...

    I'm not a chemist. I thought to make solid mercury was just temperature -launch mercury into space!

    This video, however, I don't know.
     
  18. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    This is a bad faith argument since you are talking about putting the stone in a trough, not a box. I guess you could float the block in some incredibly strong box and then move the box, mercury and the rock together...

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  19. BlockOut Registered Member

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    A hole in the ground is a quite strong trough.
    There is no walls that can collaps.

    You cover the bottom and sides of the stone with a layer of fiber.
    You cover the side of the stone in the direction you want to move it, with a meter of fibers.
    Then you put next layer of clay on the fibers.
    Then you cover the whole stone with hard packed earth, stones and sand.
    Now you pour in the mercury in the inner layer of fibers until the stone float.
    Then you remove the one meter fibers on the side.
    Now you move the stone in to that space.


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  20. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Yes but this is not solid mercury: it is a solid amalgam, i.e. an alloy of mercury with another metal.

    Mercury is liquid at RTP due to the combined effect of 2 things. The first is the lanthanide contraction, which pulls in and stabilises the electrons in the outermost 6s orbital more than for Zn and Cd, making it more reluctant to release them for metallic bonding. The second is that this is compounded by relativistic effects, arising from the high speed of motion of electrons in an atom with a high nuclear charge, which further pulls in and stabilises its orbitals compared to what would be expected for the non-relativistic Schrödinger equation. Hg has high ionisation energies for a metal and the metallic bonding is anomalously weak.

    However in an alloy, there is another source of electrons for metallic bonding, so you get a solid.
     
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  21. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    And then the mercury flows out and the stone drops to the ground.
     
  22. Neddy Bate Valued Senior Member

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    BlockOut,

    If they could have moved mercury so efficiently as that, they would have had to be able to pump the liquid up out of the depths of the channel. That means they would have already known how to harness all of the mechanical advantages of hydraulic jacks. No need for mercury in that case.
     
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