Idiocy, Compulsion, Gratitude, Nobility or Deception?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by KUMAR5, Dec 25, 2017.

  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    So man can make natural things!

    This natural building is made out of non-living things just picked up off the ground: granite, water and cement (limestone).

    Problem solved!
     
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  3. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    But these are not in natural form so unnatural.
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    How is that different from "...dead & superfluous parts ... bamboo, straw,mud houses..." ?

    You pick the stuff off the ground, you shape it in a way can you can use it to build your house.
     
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  7. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    We have inharent or evolved sense of these but not of news ones. Moreover, we are not changing their natural form but using these in their natural form. You are just arranging them as those are like say for example, you are keeping many type of fruits in a basket but not making cocktail fruit juice.
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    And that ... to you ... is the difference between a world of badness and a world of goodness?
     
  9. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Just fact and fiction.
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    OK.

    Sparrows make their nests from a mortar they get by mixing mud with saliva. So they live in unnatural nests.
    Beavers build dams, lodges and walls with trees they first girdle (so they die) then fell. So they live in unnatural homes.

    Odd definition, but OK.
     
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  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    There is neither fact not fiction in your musings; they are simply opinions. And not very well-defended opinions at that. We're trying to help you with that.
     
  12. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    No, it is natural for them.
     
  13. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Whatever we perceive to be rational under modern environment influence, most interact accordingly. Need not to be truth.
     
  14. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    You don't think humans are natural, ok got it.
     
  15. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    They are natural but do not practice naturality.
     
  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Then houses are natural for us.
     
  17. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    But we are not evolved to modern type concrete houses.
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I'd say we're pretty evolved to sleeping in a protected location. (BTW modern "concrete type houses" are not the norm in most of the world.)
     
  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes we are. Why do you think we are not?

    Sparrows are warm-blooded vertebrates with brains big enough to build nests out of materials.
    So are humans.

    This line between natural and unnatural is getting so that we need an electron microscope just to see it.
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Ah. Kumar has invented a new term. This is looking a lot like Asexperia's thread on magnitivity. When refute, he just makes up new terms.
     
  21. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    We can understand, what is natural and what not. Whatever to which we(our body) have inherent( original or evolved) sense or right or wrong is natural to us otherwise not. Wood/leaves burning smoke should be natural to us but petroleum burning smoke not.
     
  22. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Repeating;
    We can understand, what is natural and what not. Whatever to which we(our body) have inherent( original or evolved) sense or right or wrong is natural to us otherwise not. Wood/leaves burning smoke should be natural to us but petroleum burning smoke not.
     
  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Wood is a very inefficient fuel, and pollutes far more than petroleum. That's why a wood fire has a black plume - as well as leaving solid ash, whereas petroleum can be burned efficiently enough to have no partially-consumed byproducts - just gases: CO2 and water vapour.

    Kumar, why do you wish to poison our planet?
     

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