If God is real, how would you know?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Jan Ardena, Apr 8, 2020.

  1. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    So God would be want you want God to be. Just like when you thought you believed in God.
    But that doesn’t work, as we can only pretend for so long.
    Everything is evidence of God! Duh!!!
    Fits right in with His definition.
    That’s true. But what’s that got to do with anything.
    Nevertheless, in the future when you bring “Nurk the Great” up, in a discussion, I will know who you are talking about.
    Having both reached the understanding that you just made up a random character for no good reason. We could switch the discussion to why you would do such a thing.
    I don’t see it like that.
    If you think that you would know God exists, because you could see the evidence, should it arrive, then I presume you already know something about God. Otherwise you would not know what to look for, especially as you reject definitions.
    The point of defining something is not to assert that it is true. Why would you think such a silly thing? But what makes you think you would recognise evidence of God, if you have no idea of what God is, or even supposed to be?
     
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  3. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    How do you know what evidence of God is?
     
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  5. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I would change.
     
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  7. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    If you had faith you would know.
     
  8. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah. I know God is real. In a dream we had sex. He being all powerful wan kinda an aphrodisiac. But, I don't see it requiring faith.

    What is faith anyway?
     
  9. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    That's the kicker, isn't it Jan, we don't know, we have no clue. It's pure speculation. That's why it's absurd to even assert such a thing, it's no different than asserting dragons, unicorns or orcs. From where other than the imagination would these things originate?
     
  10. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Understanding would mean to knowing, faith would mean to not know.
     
  11. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    You were a believer and because a non-believer (I think?) and now you are a believer again.

    What changed for you when you weren't a believer? I'm guessing you missed something and that's why you came back but when you weren't a believer did anything really change?
     
  12. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    It's interesting that this question even needs to be asked since everything else that we know as being real is obvious.
     
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  13. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Faith is both trust and hope by judging truth and life.
     
  14. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I guess imagination is more important and that includes make believe.
     
  15. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Wait, you mean you didn't have a dream of sex with God to know he exists, or something to that effect, but you need this faith?
     
  16. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    When you have truth, you have no need for faith.
     
  17. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Do you know everything there is to know?
     
  18. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    No one does. Do you?

    Why would one need to know everything there is to know (an impossibility) to realize that what we do know is obvious and the concept of God is anything but obvious.

    I saw a leave on my deck this morning and it wasn't there last night. Was it God? Or are there other much more likely explanations?
     
  19. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    How do you know God is not obvious?
     
  20. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I don’t know.
    What was the original cause that occurred in order to make that event happen?
     
  21. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    So while you don’t have truth, you have a need for faith.
     
  22. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Now, you know the reason why people surround themselves with truth, so that they don't need faith. Faith is for those who don't want to know truth.
     
  23. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know but what are the chances that that leave would end up on that exact spot of my deck given all the other places it could have ended up and are are the chances that other leaves didn't end up there?

    The thing the only possible explanation is God, right?
     

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