If Trump gets back in?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Xelasnave.1947, May 11, 2020.

  1. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    LOL! What in Trump's tweeting would lead you to think he puts any forethought, political strategy, or even just a second thought or spell check into much of it at all? Like most social media, it's verbal diarrhea. I get that you want to think everything he says or tweets has some import, but those who voted for him know that he just says stuff, without any plan other than to perhaps keep the media busy with bs. And you eat it right up.
     
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  3. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    You would need to do a paternity test on his offspring to substantiate part of that assessment

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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No, I am mocking you for coming up with ever more desperate defenses of Trump's indefensible behavior. I honestly cannot wait until Mary Trump's book comes out; you are going to twist yourself into pretzels trying to figure out how to invalidate the opinions of a close relative who is also a clinical psychologist. It will be fun to watch.
    Get out more so I can . . . . stare at a cellphone with the sound turned off? When you "get out" do you do the same? If so you have a strange view of what "get out more" means. (Although it would go a long way towards explaining your worldview.)
     
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  7. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    To Trump - absolutely. He wouldn't know a policy if it bit him. But reactions? Ratings? He spent years watching his reality TV show live and die by ratings. He wants ratings, and will react instantly to whatever direction he thinks the ratings wind is blowing.

    130,000 Americans dead? Who cares, if he can establish a meme that the cool people don't wear masks and don't worry about the disease? He figures his "bold leadership" in refusing to wear a mask will make him popular.
     
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  8. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    No twisting, just assuming Trump is just some guy, instead of some deified figurehead expected never to err. I get that you place that kind of significance on politics and political office, but most people have a more sensible perspective. And psychologists have already said a lot about Trump. Why would one more matter? Does blood relations provide more psychological expertise?

    Get out more, so you can understand how the average human uses mobile devices and social media (since you don't seem to understand how surveys work). You know, observe some human behavior for yourself.
     
  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    The White House just threw you under the bus - again.

    Kayleigh McEnany had this to say about the incident: "His point in tweeting out that video was to stand with his supporters, who are oftentimes demonized, so he took it down but he does stand with the men and women of The Villages." Not "he didn't hear it." Not "he misinterpreted it." Not "it was a mistake." But instead - he stands with the men and women in the video. And the only reason he took down the tweet was that they were unfairly demonized.

    And apparently, you stand with them as well.

    Can't wait to see your next twist.
     
  10. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    Now you're either ignorant or lying.
    "The president did not hear that phrase in that portion of the video, and when it was signaled to him that this was in there he took that tweet down," McEnany told "Fox & Friends."
    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...deo-of-man-shouting-white-power-to-stand-with
    That's literally what I said. Once again, you're either omitting or ignorant of the full context of what people actually say. This came immediately before what you quoted.
    And he took it down "when it was signaled to him that this was in there", not because they were demonized. Learn the full context, so you don't sound like such an ignorant dupe in a leftist bubble.

    They have a right to support Trump, but no one said they stand with the sentiment of "white power". That's just a ignorant lie you've told yourself.
     
  11. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    Does it seem more likely that voters will be attracted to "we got through the last 4 years ,so what the hell 4 more years won't kill us" or "the past 4 years have been abhorrent and 4 more years will shift the axis of US politics irreversibly -for the worse ,of course)?
     
  12. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    You mean record low unemployment and historically low minority unemployment for three years, and all the economic success that entails, followed by a natural disaster that shows every sign of being over soon? Yeah, why would we want to go right back to the kind of economic growth we experienced before the epidemic?
     
  13. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Because the president we have now shows every sign of being completely incompetent - and the next natural disaster will be handled just as poorly as he handled this one.

    If (god forbid) we have another natural disaster, it would be a good idea to have a competent leader running things, rather than a sociopath who doesn't read things and uses nepotism and patronage, rather than competence, to fill other leadership positions.
     
  14. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    You didn't bother answering my question so I won't respond to your assertions.
     
  15. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    I don't answer false dilemmas with faulty premises.

    No, that's just your partisan bias.
     
  16. geordief Valued Senior Member

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  17. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    you are not dealing with a man with an overwhelming sense of self awareness
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    It is a partisan bias to desire competent leadership? If so I will take it! My partisan bias is for competent leadership, and yours is for sociopath ideologues. Good luck with that!
     
  19. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    No, it's partisan bias to not accept that competent leadership is only as good as accurate information. Didn't we already have this little talk about not expecting politicians to be some deified figurehead? But I can see how that would make you believe anyone agin must be the devil. Most adults no longer believe in boogeymen.
     
  20. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yet you accept some sort of boogeyman creator.

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    Quite ironic.
     
  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I agree. And now we have a president who doesn't read, who rejects any information in briefings that doesn't conform to his preconceptions, and who fires anyone who contradicts him or gets more traction in the press than he does. He believes windmills give you cancer. He believes that testing for a disease less often will result in fewer cases of disease, that exercise shortens your life, and that climate change is a Chinese hoax. So yes, his competence is only as good as the accurate information he gets - and he goes out of his way to ensure he does not get it.
    "anyone aging must be the devil?" What a fascinating strawman you have created! Why don't you argue for and against that made up position?
     
  22. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    I completely understand why you might find an objective observer who may judge your actions frightening. No wonder you rail against it so. Those skeletons must be some real doozies.

    Nah, still just your partisan bias, where every rational person agrees that China and the WHO misled the whole world for months. And your analytical skills are lacking if you can't see that the number of cases diverging from the number of deaths makes the former a meaningless metric on its own.

    So you've never seen the word "agin", huh? Couldn't even bother to google it. Talk about a lack of information.
     
  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    My actions are rather insignificant compared to the arrogantly, religiously fanatical, gun toting redneck that your posts display.
     

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