Imagination.

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  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    That is indeed a valiant attempt at imaginative writing. If only the literary skill was a little more polished, it might be provocative.
    Now it's just incoherent rambling ......

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    Because the periodic table is not based on the cube . nor do the atomic structures of atoms .
     
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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I'll be more than happy to explain it to you.

    Can you be "more than happy"?

    "Hey Joe, did you hear, .. they had to commit George to an institution, .. he was, .. uhhhhh, .. more than happy"
     
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  7. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Do you mean a mathematical sphere is a fundamental natural physical pattern? OK, I agree.

    I think Plato missed that minor object in his analogy of idealized patterns, the Platonic solids.

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    Schematic view of adenovirus. The icosahedral capsid is formed by the hexon. The penton base is located at the 12 vertices and forms a non-covalent complex with the trimeric fiber. The fiber's knob domain is responsible for the interaction with the receptors.

    Sphere, shape

    Description

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    https://calcworkshop.com/volume-surface-area/sphere/

    Math in Nature: Perfect Spheres

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    Perfect symmetry, the ultimate mathematical object.
     
  8. river

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    The Physical .
     
  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    A virus is a physical object and not spherical, but icosahedral. Another mathematically self-organizing physical object.

    Hexagonal

    Do bees know math?

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    The regular hexagons of honeycombs might owe more to the laws of physics than to honeybees' engineering prowess. Credit: CORDELIA MOLLOY/SPL

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  10. river

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    Write4U

    The physical form is the consequence of the physical . Mathematics , in and of its self , can not form a physical thing , without reference to a physical thing .
     
  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Physical things emerge from mathematical patterns. But let's compromise and admit that this is an equation,
    https://www.britannica.com/science/equation

    The Perfect Shape? Research Finally Reveals Ancient Universal Equation for the Shape of an Egg

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    Write4U

    The physical form is the consequence of the physical . Mathematics , in and of its self , can not form a physical thing , without reference to a physical thing .

    Disagree

    My thinking says that mathematical patterns emerge from three dimensional physical objects , movements .
     
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    How nature's patterns form

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    This image shows the pattern on the head of a sunflower as generated by a mathematical model of plant growth. Credit: Matt Pennybacker, University of Arizona.
    https://phys.org/news/2011-02-nature-patterns.html
     
  14. river

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    No it doesn't .
     
  15. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Tell Alan C. Newell

    Alan C. Newell
    Irish-American mathematician

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  16. river

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    Go on . Mathematics about the superfluous .
     
  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    He is the mathematician.
    Yes it does.
    Yes, mathematics separates the superfluous from the essential and fuses the essentials into a kernel of truth.

    I think that was elegantly posited.
     
  18. river

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    But not True .
     
  19. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I disagree. Sorry.....

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  20. river

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    But not true .


    Disagree why ?
     
  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Because I agree with the mathematician.
     
  22. river

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    No surprise . Computers and all .
     
  23. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    Both sides of the argument are known. Science has only risen to the point of dashing our imagination.
    but religion has esteemed us to a false sense of imagination…

    neither are perfectly right.
     

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