Immigration Crisis or an Economic Opportunity?

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Michael, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

    Income taxation is not volentary. Thats why we have the word charity.

    What voice does a kid born owing on a 30 year Bond?

    What happens if the person wants to live in their house and they refuse to pay on said bonds? Oh, that's right - violence. Violence happens.

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  3. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    It is, as explained to you:
    Of course it is - your place of residence, choice of employment, all that stuff, is completely up to you. You don't like it, nobody's holding you - don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

    That's what you guys keep telling me, anyway.
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  5. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

    Apparently this incident was somewhat shocking to Swedes? Well, that's okay. They'll get used to it. Soon, dangerous subways, no-go zones, rape, violence, generational welfare, etc.... - all of this will be a normal part of life in Sweden. And hey, at least no one could say the Swedes are racist... LOL yeah, except that's exactly what they'll say. And are saying. Hahahaha.... too funny. Wouldn't want someone to say something mean about you right? LOL Too bad you racist cuke, now pay more money.... hahahaha...

    Go ahead and call a Japanese a racist, you'll find someone who totally agrees with you. Ha! Too funny

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    Did you know, in the 1800s, about 1 in 3 Europeans returned to Europe. They came, they found life was not to their liking, and thankfully - they left. Something to consider. Not that it mattered. Progressive Socialism and Central Banking was going to happen - one way or another. Baked in the cake.

    Anyway, Sweden, you're a fantastic lesson in "Democratic Socialism". A Progressive Poster-Child if ever there was one. Thank the Gods the Swedes put their faith in Governmental Institutions. Not like that wasn't bound to fail spectacularly. Oh? The solution? There is only one peaceful solution for Sweden. A complete 100% end to the Welfare State. Or, bye bye Sweden.

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  7. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member


    Oh, don't worry, I have no problem coming and going as I please

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    As for legally 'taxing' laborer's - the US Constitution was amended to make this legal. You know, that whole Progressive Income Tax. It's what's funding the largest Government in the history of the human race - ours. It's what's funding our never ending wars. You know, so we can have trillions and trillions of miles of 'free roads'. And it funds our Police State. It funds our Government's spying on us. It bailed out our criminal fiat currency bankers - who are richer than ever. Sure, it cost a generation or two their prosperity and opportunity in life, so what? You use use the roads

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    Well, to be fair, T-Bonds backed by future progressive income taxation would be more accurate.

    So, let's see how "Democratic" Socialism plays out in Europe. My guess is, much like it played out in Venezuela. Too bad democratically elected socialist Hugo didn't live long enough to see the children his progressive policies impoverished eat from garbage dumps - right now, 1 in 5 Venezuelans are living off refuse to obtain their daily calories. But, hey, that's okay: They use the roads.

    And why? Because people like you, want free-shit. At the end of the day, this is your motivation. Free-Shit. Free University. Free Healthcare. Freee free freeeeee.... and then you have the audacity of accusing those who challenge the notion of selling T Bonds on the unborn, or taxing laborers of what they own - their body and it's actions. All so that you can have some free shit.

    Sorry, nothing is for free.
    And income taxation is immoral by definition - not to mention, it's a poorly structured accounting tool. At best. But, whatever. What is, is.

    Anyway, let's see where Socialism takes the Swedes. My guess, to a nice long vacation, Venezuelan style - and that's if they're lucky

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    My guess is, they will not be that lucky.
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  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    Too late - it already hasn't.

    For one thing, it never turned into socialism - all of Europe runs on capitalism, as the central economic engine. Has for many years now.
    For another, it never turned into a collection of centrally micromanaged economies, like Venezuela (or Cuba, but that one doesn't get mentioned so often - health care stats, nobody eating zoo animals on the one hand or murdering and raping across the countryside on the other, Cuba doesn't play so well in the wingnut pantheon, despite being the poster child for socialism in the Western hemisphere).
    Which doesn't explain why you refuse to support the efforts of people like me to pay for shit, and get what they pay for - like the Swedes do, and the Germans, and the Danes, and everybody else in the Western industrialized world. What's up with that?
  9. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member


    5 years ago Hugo was "The" Progressive - "Democratically" elected Socialist, Progressive of the Year one could say. Read all about how wonderful Hugo is, right here in a magazine called THE PROGRESSIVE. Read all about how wonderful his 'economic' policies are. How he's going to stick it to those evil Amoorican oil companies - stealing all that Venezuelan wealth. Power to The People. Workers Unite! Oh, but, it didn't really work out all that well now did it?

    And it won't end all that well in Swedenstan either. Of course, these things take time.

    Back to the No True Scotsman I see. Again, none of the modern Nation States use sound money. ALL modern nation states use fiat currency. These currency units come into existence through debt. Not capital savings. We are NOT capitalistic. There's a difference. Debt is not capital.

    As a matter of fact, we have 20 TRILLION units of debt obligations. 20 TRILLION dollars worth of government distortion. 20 TRILLION decisions - all made based on the initiation of violence. I know know. You love our Nation State. Wave our pretty flag. Have known nothing other than a life as a Citizen in a Nation State. The idea of a voluntary society, even one with a LIMITED government is as foreign to you as dry land is to a fish. It's okay, you're in good company. So, it's of little wonder (to me) that we live in a Police State, where all of our communication is sifted through and collated by the State's various spy agencies, where we house the largest non-violence prison population in human history, where we engage in the longest running war - a phony war based on fake news. Where we have to pay a tax on the 'income' from our labor. Where we need permission to sell milk. Or get married. Or smoke a weed.

    Oh, I know I know, I use the roads. There's the door. Blah blah blah.... not going to change what is. LOL

    Ours IS your Progressive Socialist State.
    We're living in it.

    And, we're getting more of it. Probably with a spoonful of fascistic flavoring. Just be patent, you'll get all that free-shit. We'll get to our Workers Paradise one day. AND you'll even get to keep your toothbrush

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    Firstly, Cuba's a crap hole. Even been there? No? Maybe you should go once before you crap on about some place you've never been. Secondly, even in Socialist Worker's Paradises like North Korea you own your toothbrush. This doesn't negate what it is.

    Except you didn't. You didn't pay. You voted for politicians who took out debt obligations and the Chinese and Japanese paid. You're forcing those obligations onto your children, and their children's children, and their children's children. 100's of TRILLIONS of debt obligations, for services and good that YOU enjoyed - THEY WILL PAY FOR. If they don't? And they resist - they can get shot in the face, or dragged off to prison.

    Land of the Fleeced
    Home of the Slave

    And don't you worry, we're getting more State Authoritarianism - not less. More.

    Because, you're still not done now are you? You want MOAR free-shit. Like free healthcare, free K-14, free-shit man

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    Well, well well - it's going to take a LOT of tax chattel to pay for all that free-shit. Best get them rapefugees in here paying for all of it now. Hurry up. Time's ticking. Those greenshoots aren't just going to up and grow themselves now

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    In a sense. What was, was. But, that's not what Swedes want. Not what was. Not what is. But what will be. Or so they thought. The Swede's voted to use State violence to provide for their future.

    They're in for a surprise.

    Call it Karma. The end result of all Socialism / The Initiation of Violence against innocent humans / Citizens / Tax Chattel trapped inside of a Nation State / geopolitical entity. Yes, Karma sums it up nicely.

    Voting to make rape legal (even of a fellow Citizen) - is not going to make it moral. And get this, you're not going to rape your way to a happy prosperous society. How fitting the Swedes would end up in the predicament they are in.

    Anyway, returning to the OP: As I said, the ONLY way to peacefully solve this crises, is the complete end to the Welfare State. End it all. That's not going to happen though. So, bye bye Swedenstan. Nice knowing you. Oh, and thanks for making an example of yourselves. It's a timely lesson indeed. Really good timing to be honest.
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  10. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

    There's a theory that suggests Rome didn't proceed through the industrial revolution because of the readily supply of slave labor. You know, in a society where Authoritarianism is the norm, the idea of creating or inventing things is done through this lens. You'd probably be less inclined to think up some magical machine that runs on dinosaur juice when what you really need is a better means of capturing more humans, enslaving them, and breaking them as humans.

    Let's see what the Socialistic Europeans do to solve their social crises. Would a voluntary solution come to mind, such as ending welfare? Or will an Authoritarian come to mind - one that will use State violence to 'solve' the problems of society? Yes, let's see which direction the Europeans go in.

    Where did their gold-paved Socialistic road lead them to?
  11. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

    German Newspaper: Lkw-Fahrer soll als Flüchtling ins Land gekommen sein

    Local police confirm: 12 people were murdered and 48 injured when a Pakistani refugee plowed his truck into a crowded Christmas market in east Berlin around 8:00pm on Monday evening.

    Of course, one wonders how you can BE a Pakistani refugee. Syria is the nation at war with ISIS/America. Not Pakistan. Oh, that's right. Germans don't want to be called racists. Well, too bad. That's exactly what you are going to be called. Not just this year - FOREVER.


    See, over the next 6 years, ethnic German males WILL come to be a minority of the men aged 18 - 35 living in Germany.
    Too funny huh?

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    From there it's simple math. Demographics show that non ethnic Germans will replace ethnic Germans, not only by out breeding them, but also by marrying their relatives/cousins back in the home country and bringing them over to enjoy all the free-shit. The more come, the more free-shit. It's a win-win. Regardless, even with stemming the flood of refugees into Germany, the refugees living in Germany now, together with non-ethnic Germans, will easily displace ethnic Germans by the middle to end of this century. Say, in a human lifespan.
    Which is good isn't it.
    Because Germans are racists - and Germans will always BE racists. They have to pay - forever. Until there are no Germans. Which, will be soon enough

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    AND, funny enough, Germans are actually paying taxes to disenfranchise their own children. Can you imagine? That's some funny arse sh*t. Yeah, trust GiverMint dumbarses. See how that works out for you.... again.


    Ah Progressive Socialism, you are one wicked b*tch, that much is for sure.
    Bye Bye Germany, hello Karma / Germanstan

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  12. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

    I'll say it once again, as I find it of interest to note. During the late 1800s, many Europeans came to the USA. 1 in 3 returned to Europe. See, without a Progressive Income Tax, GiverMint couldn't offer free-shit. Thus, people had to work, if they wanted to eat. In this way, Americans ushered in the post-modern era. It was a selection of the hard-working. Those with Industry. Both of which are correlated with high IQ.

    The exact opposite of today's snowflake

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    Let's see how it all works out:
    New Scientist: Brain drain: Are we evolving stupidity?
    United Press International: Last century - Western nations lost an average 14 IQ points
  13. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

    FriaTrider: Café Vattenpipa: Här hölls kvinnan som våldtäktsslav i källaren.

    So, a Swedish liberal volunteer group helped a pair of Syrian men taken in as refugees set up a a Middle Eastern hookah shop.

    Having finished virtue signalling, kind of like male car spraying thier terrirotyr, the liberals left, their jobs done here - never to return. Now, as someone who lived with a middle eastern refugee (really great guy) I can tell you, I never once say a progressive liberal come around outside of their 'community' organization filled with other liberals. IOWs, all I ever say any of them do was virtue signal to one another. They don't live in the neighborhood and they aren't close friends with any actual refugees.

    Anyway, so the local authorities came to inspect the suspicious business, and they discovered a stomach-churning surprise in the shop’s basement.

    In the basement of the hookah cafe, managed by 2 Syrian Muslim refugees, 28-year-old Khaled Azez Hegrs and 23-year-old Tareq Bakkar, they discovered a kidnapped Swedish woman chained in the shop’s basement. The brutalized victim was being kept as their own personal sex slave and had been repeatedly raped and tortured by at least 7 Arab Muslim men.

    The horrific revelation provided investigators with proof that the unnamed woman had been kidnapped at gunpoint from Malmo before a group of 4 Muslim asylum seekers transported her by car to the cafe. She was then chained to a water pipe in the basement of the lounge in Helsingborg, where the men repeatedly gang raped her.

    Authorities confirmed that as soon as the car arrived at the shop, 3 other Arab men were waiting to begin their sadistic sex spree. The men forced her onto a couch and stripped her naked before carrying out oral, vaginal, and anal rape. On at least one occasion, police say that she was raped by 2 men at once.


    Avpixlat reports that Hegrs and Bakkar were each sentenced to 4 years in prison for aggravated rape and forced to pay $30,000 in damages. Neither was convicted of kidnapping or torture. The judge has finally agreed to deport the pair, although the convicted may appeal their sentences, as most migrant offenders do. Incredibly, the court is still struggling to convict the other 5 migrants.

    Progressive Socialism - destroys another society. See, NONE of this would be possible with socialism. Why? Because Progressive Liberals are some of the stingiest people on the planet - more than happy to virtue signal with YOUR money (in this case income tax). Not too happy about spending their own money. They'd barely bring in a handful, probably women and children who actually need refugee services, if they had to buy the land, pay for the food, water, electricity, etc.... Thanks to the magic of Progressive Socialism, all they have to do is vote in a Socialist, whom fit into Government like hand in glove.

    Then spray the country in urine as they virtue signal to the progressive voting base. Of course, because no one wants to be called a 'racist' most people just shut up and watch the society around them implode. How insane is that? What? The word going to hurt you? You're willing to watch as your entire way of life is undermined over being called a name?

    How pathetic. Then you deserve your future.
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  14. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

    Here's some interesting immigration news from the USA, via CBS: Montrealers bound for Trump inauguration turned away at border.

    CBC has spoken to two Montrealers who were refused entry to the U.S. en route to Washington for Donald Trump’s U.S. presidential inauguration today and the women’s march Saturday. Joseph Decunha, a McGill University physics student, said he had tried to cross the border at Lacolle, Que., at 10 p.m. ET Thursday. “The first thing he asked us point blank is, ‘Are you anti- or pro-Trump?'” Decunha claims he was asked by a border guard who eventually denied him entry.

    Sasha Dyck, another Montrealer travelling with a different group of people, was refused entry to the U.S. at the same crossing, after telling agents he was hoping to attend the women’s march.


    Apparently, Boarder Guards make such decisions every day and operate under the same general guidelines for alien admission as are found in Sec. 212. [8 U.S.C. 1182] which sets forth a variety of reasons for denial of entry, visas, passports, etc.
    (3) Security and related grounds.-
    (A) In general.- Any alien who … seeks to enter the United States to engage solely, principally, or incidentally in-
    (iii) any activity a purpose of which is the opposition to, or the control or overthrow of, the Government of the United States by force, violence, or other unlawful means.

    A far cry from Swedenstan, that much is for sure........... 70 years of post-WWII boom. And, here we are. While I've never been denied entry to a country, I have had some interesting experiences entering countries. Like seeing guards in full body armor walking around carrying machine guns. That was entering via LAX. The only airport I was pick-pocked at incidentally.

    Funny enough, when we were 18 we'd drive over to Windsor and get hammered. On more than one occasion I feel asleep in the back of my mates truck bed, he'd just drove up to the boarder crossing, and we were waved through (me still asleep). Long gone are THOSE days.
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