UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by Magical Realist, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    I can't quote when you didn't agree with everything a ufo website says.

    It's a solar car on a road, a cloud claimed to be a mothership or a refraction of light on a windshield, but it's compelling evidence for you to be visiting aliens. No amount of reason can break down that wall of incompetent zealotry.
     
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    That would apply to river even more so.
     
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  5. river

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    What books have you read pad .

    To me your gullible because of your ignorance . You read no books because you are afraid of the evidence .
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The first Three Minutes: Black Holes and Time Warps: Hyperspace: A Brief History of Time: A Universe from Nothing:

    Now river we know you are banned from the sciences, thankfully we don't need to put up with your childish nonsense any more there.

    Now again, we have absolutely no extraordinary evidence to claim with any certainty that life exists elsewhere, let alone your fanciful Atomic war on Mars between Alien species, or any Alien visitations at all.
    That's the state of the nation today, and it will probably be the state of the nation tomorrow, if you are game enough to get out of bed, with all this conspiracy being undertaken.

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  8. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    So you're making shit up about me. Nice move..
     
  9. river

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    Yes your typical character attack .

    When you are backed into a corner . Like mouse . Lashes out , but to avail .

    You are ignorant on this subject , plain and simple .
     
  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Pot, kettle black!!!

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    Stop being so pretentious river!!! Face the facts river!! The only ones backed into any corners are you and MR, and have been for ages.
    You can hide from reality as much and as long as you like. WE though still have no evidence for any life off this Earth. So why don't you have the integrity to address the questions I raised about scientists who accept ETL [like Carl Sagan]yet still poopooing the blurry photographs, and gullible interpretations that some crazies like putting on the small number of UFO's that do remain as Unidentified, or unknown. Why don't they accept them as verification of their thoughts about life existing elsewhere? Why? Because simply put, the evidence is far from conclusive in some cases, and just plain thread bare in the majority of them.
    A 100 years these buggers have been visiting us according to the crazies...a 100 years!!! Yet they still flitter in and flitter out again.
    C'mon river stop dreaming, stop reading and filling your noggin with unsupported nonsense. Be in awe of what science does know...be in awe of what we can know at this time...be in awe of how we are able to describe the evolution of the universe from t+10-43 seconds with reasonable confidence. That's far better then polluting your mind with unsupported trash and stuidity.
     
  11. river

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    pad ;

    Since You have no information to support your reasoning and logic . ( you don't read ) .

    Then all your comments become moot .
     
  12. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Want some more river? Cosmos: Billions and Billions: Other Worlds: All by Carl Sagan, the greatest educator of the 20th century imo.
    And one more I'm about to get this week I hope....Spacetime and Geometry: Sean Carroll. Far better then any nonsense of Branderburg, hey river?
     
  13. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yet all that info I have supplied you, will still be what counts tomorrow and next week, won't it river?
    So in effect, your posts here, and elsewhere are always moot, as you indulge in fairy tales.
     
  14. river

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    ( now its the BS post ) .

    From what books have you supplied this " info " ?
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Anyway time to ignore the usual childish antics of river......

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    https://www.sciencealert.com/ufo-nasa-iss-sighting-debunked-fireballs-video-james-oberg-not-aliens

    This Former NASA Engineer Has Debunked Pretty Much Every Online UFO Sighting

    FIONA MACDONALD
    21 NOVEMBER 2017

    You've probably seen more than your fair share of stories about UFO sightings. An astronaut on the ISS just has to catch footage of a fireball shooting across Earth's skies, and conspiracy theorists have a field day. Whether it's clouds that look like spaceships or rogue meteors, the internet loves a good alien conspiracy.

    But former NASA engineer James Oberg has taken it upon himself to trawl through all the sightings and stories out there and politely debunk them, using science.

    The conclusion? Most of your "insane UFO sightings" are little more than 'space dandruff', or your brain misunderstanding of what space travel actually looks like, says Oberg.

    As Cara Giaimo from Atlas Obscura reports, after working at NASA mission control in the late '90s, Oberg went on to become a space journalist and historian. It wasn't until a few years ago that he started to take UFO sightings seriously.

    His goal isn't to simply crap all over true believers - he calls that "stomping on dormice" - instead he's interested in teasing out exactly what's going on in these images and videos, and trying to figure out why people are reacting so strongly to them.

    His hypothesis? Our human senses are so used to focussing on relatively slow-moving objects, as well as certain light and atmosphere conditions, that when things change, our brains get confused.

    Some of the most common sighting he has to debunk are to do with NASA astronauts reportedly seeing UFOS and being forced to keep silent, which Oberg says is a result of us watching too much sci-fi and not really understanding what space really looks like.

    "I've had enough experience with real spaceflight to realise that what's being seen in many videos is nothing beyond the 'norm' from fully mundane phenomena occurring in unearthly settings," Oberg writes over on his site.

    Here are some of the more common reports you might have seen on the interwebs, and Oberg's explanation of what's really going on:

    "Our sensory system is functioning absolutely perfectly for Earth conditions," Oberg told Giaimo. "But we're still a local civilisation. Moving beyond our neighbourhood has been visually confusing."

    The real story? Space dandruff, which are things that have shed off space vehicles during flight, like ice flakes, paint chips, or fragments of insulation. They're different to space junk, because they don't pose a real threat to spacecraft, Oberg explains on his site.

    These flecks of dandruff are pretty common, but the reason they look so weird to us is that we're not used to the way these objects look when they fall while the space station is travelling through space.

    much more at link.....
    far better then reading, and taking in the nonsense as river proposes/......
     
  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    back later river to refute your nonsense. Byeeee!

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  17. river

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    He is laughable . So on the Space Station , is visually confused Astronought's .
     
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  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Asserting that human perception is not subject to misinterpretation - and being called out on it - is not "petty shit". The nature of interpretation of what we see is a core part of the analysis of UFO reports.
    To suggest it simply doesn't happen is ignorant at-best, dishonest at worst - and quite damaging to the very cause of UFOlogy.

    You can complain and misrepresent all you want, my role is to provide science as an antidote to your Trump-esque dishonesty.

    Frankly, I'm not sure why you don't have me on ignore. I can dismantle your dishonesty for the record whether or not you read it.

    Enough of this stalling. On-topic or step out.
     
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  19. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Laughable?

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    Obviously!!!
     
  20. river

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    Sorry don't see the Humor . Explain pad .
     
  21. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Dressing up your petty whining and ad homs as some noble scientific crusade won't work. Your claim that human perception is unreliable has been refuted over and over here with everyday common sense examples. And your claim about the natives not noticing the ship at sea being an urban legend was directly refuted by you in that historical account you quoted. So now you're just whining and bitching about me because that's what you do best as the local moralizing prig. Consider yourself officially ignored from henceforth.
     
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  22. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    It's a mirror riv, a bloody mirror!!

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    Meaning its laughable that you can be so damn hypocritical in calling someone else's comments laughable, in lieu of your own laughable inane stupid posts.
    oh, and astronaught is spelt Astronaut.
     
  23. river

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    Well at least you can spell pad .

    As for your reading , you don't .
     

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