UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

Only making it worse for yourself. Evidently the best you can come up with - your second quote in #4440 - only proves the truth of the first one. Best if you just stop posting here. It will be less embarrassing.

 

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Dream on matey!

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you aint fooling anyone, really!

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Our gullible and angry friend, is trying to dispute the differences between......
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Spend hours trawling but you will fail to quote me advocating either higher dimensions or Aliens

and....

" but am convinced a higher power or powers exists natively in some other realm of existence i.e. outside of our spacetime continuum."


A little song comes to mind that was popular when I was a Tin Lid......

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But you must admit he is telling you not just 1 story but lots

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The fool just makes himself look more and more foolish. Is it really not clear to you that
Higher power ≠ aliens
Other realm of existence ≠ higher dimensions.
It's disgraceful that you are allowed to go on and on and on repeating lies and misinfo in general without any checks and balances applied. What a wasteland for you to thrive in is SF.

 

Other realm of existence [1] = not from this Earth = alien.
Higher power = not subject to the laws of science as we know them [2] = higher dimensions (okay, or lower). Additionally, this "higher power" is also not (demonstrably) native to Earth then = alien.
Makes himself look more and more foolish? Riiight.
1 For which there is zero evidence.
2 Presumably, since "higher power" is a somewhat nebulous term and ill-defined.

 

Hm. That sounds like an interesting topic for discussion.

The reasons I keep suggesting that this be broken out into its own thread are:

1. It's off-topic in a discussion about space aliens.
2. It would be great to discuss the various flavours of non-human visitation theories on their own merits, rather than as a hair-splitting argument in a thread about aliens.
3. It would be great if Q-reeus were unburdened with the consuming complaint that nobody will listen to him and instead concentrated his arguments on making his case.

 

But I think he is doing it all with a straight face!!! Amazing!!!

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I was going to give you a like Dywyddyr, but that would just set him off on more unfounded, vengeful angry allegations, requiring a good lay down and a disprin!

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“If you’ve never seen a UFO, you’re not very observant. And if you’ve seen as many as I have, you won’t believe in them.”
Arthur C. Clarke

 

http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/astroufo2.htm
"Even people familiar with normal meteors can be fooled by unusually bright fireballs. Here is an example quoted by Philip Klass in his book UFOs Explained (Random House, 1974). Pilots aboard a commercial jet flying at 39,000 ft over the United States in 1969 were reportedly buzzed in daylight at a distance of 300 ft by a formation of four objects emitting a blue-green flame. A military jet flying some miles behind the airliner reported a squadron of UFOs approaching that suddenly started to climb as if to avoid a collision.
At the same time as this UFO “encounter”, a brilliant daylight fireball broke up into several flaming pieces over the United States, and there seems little doubt that this is what the pilots saw, despite the fact that it was actually over 100 miles away from, them. So even experienced pilots can make major errors of identification and distance. That doesn’t make them bad airmen, simply human. The encounter near Manchester reported at the start of this article seems to have been a more modest example of the same thing. For an example of how a brilliant fireball and bright stars featured in a multi-witness sighting involving the US Air Force, see my investigation of the celebrated Rendlesham Forest UFO case. Faced with incidents such as this and the Belgian Air Force case, both still declared unexplained by some UFOlogists, one wonders how far it is possible to credit any UFO report".

If real alien spacecraft were whizzing around in orbit they would rapidly be noticed both by amateur satellite spotters and by defence radars.
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Such is Life:
Ned Kelly:

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Coming in to bat for paddoboy? How foolish. Your 'equality' "Other realm of existence [1] = not from this Earth" directly implies a patch remote from Earth. I have written elsewhere here that the other realm would encompass our own spacetime continuum as being a subset of that other realm. But not simply a higher dimension as per brane world theories etc. It's been proven that in spatial dimensions higher than 3, ordinary atomic matter is inherently unstable so physical entities could not reside in such a 'higher dimension'. Similarly for lower dimensions. Smarten up.
Regarding the final mistaken 'equality' above; "not from this Earth = alien,"alien in the context of this thread means just one thing; 'space alien' = physical typically humanoid native inhabitant of a distant planet. Hugely unlikely space aliens are responsible for reliably observed poltergeist activity, hauntings, true mystery lights, etc.

Dywyddyr's very own BS 'physics' on display. Please point to a reputable article backing up your absurd 'equality/identity'. Also, see above re issue with higher dimensions.

See first point above. Further, I have made it abundantly clear in many posts in various threads the higher power(s) is/are not material as we understand the term. Thus NOT alien as in space alien.

Only if that is you talking to yourself.

 

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Ahhh, you'll try anything q-reeus, including dishonesty. Of course he's batting for me, as most others would be, because I'm essentially correct.

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It just doesn't fit in with your gullible beliefs.

As opposed to your own unsupported conspiracy nonsense you mean?

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So far we have me snuggling up to [wait for it!] James in an earlier post, now Dywyddyr snuggling up to me!

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I'm sure though river when he pokes his head in will give you a like.

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Something to look forward to q-reeus...or perhaps one other unmentionable weirdo?

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Repeated from #4433: https://www.newsweek.com/ufo-sighti...tac-pentagon-navy-unidentified-aerial-1412272

 

Don't be too hard on them q-reeus...They are only human and liable to make mistakes.

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Nice little account of so called UFO sightings...
https://www.esri.com/videos/watch?videoid=lAopNJMbFEI&title=animated-maps-a-century-of-ufo-sightings

 

Let's see. I have a choice between unequivocal official statements coming from US navy and Pentagon spokespersons and an ex-senator with access to high level intelligence reports, or a conceited know-it-all with zero connections to such. A no brainer.

 

https://phys.org/news/2020-12-im-astronomer-aliens-therebut-ufo.html
"If you believe in UFOs, you might look at what other unconventional beliefs you have."
Very very pertinent and worthy of critique and mentioning, in any debate on any particular way out claim, by any individual.
That along with the first undeniably accurate summation from the OP thus.............................
"If intelligent aliens visit the Earth, it would be one of the most profound events in human history".

 

Conceited???That's a big pot calling a Kettle Black q-reeus!! and a big mirror you are standing in front of!!

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All that has been claimed is Unidentifiable, unknown phenomena q-reeus. You know this! [I think]

I'm pretty sure no one has claimed any Aliens q-reeus, or even any conflated variation that you have invented, including higher dimensional beings, beings from another spacetime etc etc etc etc

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You again appear to be scraping the bottom of the barrel q-reeus.

Sorry matey as yet no conclusive evidence to point to any extra terrestrial/inter dimensional/ ghosty creepy Aliens of any sort or description. Come back next week and we'll see what's new.

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Nope.
Batting against stupidity.

But can't be located on this Earth.

Physical entities such as we know them.

Regardless, alien = alien.
Maybe perhaps you could try being specific.