Intrinsic Value

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by wesmorris, Dec 7, 2007.

  1. Gustav Banned Banned

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  3. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    It doesn't exist.
     
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  5. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    I take it you are frustrated then
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Yes with you atm.
    Have you read this thread ? Everyone agrees..
     
  8. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    I saw the thread and it was 9 pages...screw that. Anyways I just thought "Nothing really matters....ya pretty much", and moved on.
     
  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    lol ok, thanks for your view on it anyway

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  10. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    truth is arrived at through a vote?
    kind of scary ....
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    No, I'm just making you aware of the fact that you just called everyone here frustrated.
     
  12. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    If they haven't clicked on that happiness is a driving force behind living it doesn't seem to leave much by default ....
     
  13. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Define "happy". Are ants happy, plants.. ?
     
  14. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    yes
    plants and ants are also happy to be alive (ie desire to seek the pleasant and avoid the unpleasant)
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    And you know this how ? Do you have any evidence of plants having emotions ?
     
  16. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    To be able to avoid unpleasantness does not equal happiness.
     
  17. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    if your head was dunked under water for 5 minutes you would find it quite pleasant to be pulled up again
     
  18. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Plants seek pleasantness ?? Where did you get that ?
    Do you think a plant can evaluate a situation as pleasant ? Or is it merely that it does good under certain circumstances ?
    And what if the situation isn't 'pleasant', does it pack up and leave ? Or do certain survival system spring into life (certain genes are switches off and others are switched on to cope with the changes) ?
    Plants do not seek pleasantness, they just grow where they can.
     
  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    And do you think I would be happy then ? lol
     
  20. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    studies have been done to evidence creating different "emotional settings" affect plant growth - Jagadish Bose comes to mind ...
     
  21. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Er.. I'm not even going to answer that..
    Bye now..

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  22. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    g'night

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