Iraqi Shias protest against US troops

Discussion in 'Politics' started by S.A.M., Apr 9, 2007.

  1. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    My point is other people lived there. It is not any one persons right to simply kill people who think differently, whether they happen to live in the same vicinity or live on the other side of the planet. That is the point I am trying to make.


    If the Chinese have such a Law it is a Law because the majority of Chinese agree that such a practice is wrong. We could then assume that most Chinese do not practice female infanticide. Make sense?
     
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  3. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    I think it is wrong for anyone to conquer other people, kill them and take their stuff. Seems like a pretty simple idea. You seem to agree in all aspects except when it rubs against your romanticized notions of how Mohammad's armies conquered Arabia. Then something clicks and likewise rational goes right out the window.

    You can be very stubborn..... ???

    I understand WHY Mohammad conquered Arabia. I'm sure he thought he was either doing a Gods will or simply by conquering and uniting Arabia the place would be better. It is still wrong. That;'s what ALL conquerers like think. Alexander thought that (oh he's in the Qur'an as well), Julius thought that, the Japanese thought that, the Mongolians thought that, the Greeks thought that, GW Bush thinks that.

    It is still wrong to kill people because they don't think as you wish they would.
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Sure, which is why Islam ushered in the Golden Age for Arabia. Obviously most people wanted a better life.
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Thats unrealistic. Thats like saying anyone who goes to school should be intelligent, compassionate and rational. That does not happen but no one thinks its wrong to go to school, do they?
     
  8. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    You are right Mr maximus, a bit like the toppling of the Statue of Saddam in 2003
     
  9. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    When's this "Golden Age" gonna' begin, Sam? When's Islam gonna' give the Aaaaaa-rabs a better life?

    Baron Max
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Can it get any more golden than controlling the dollar rate and having the US President kiss ass?
     
  11. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, Sam, it can.

    I'm still waiting for your suggestions about when "The Golden Era" of the Aaaa-rabs under Islam is gonna' begin.

    Baron Max
     
  12. NDS NDS Registered Senior Member

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    If this the Islam golden Era, with more Muslims killing each other than anyone else killing them, then I'd hate to see an era which isn't Golden.
     
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  14. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Of course, it wasn't all that "Golden" for non-muslims. Never really has been, frankly. I suppose "Golden" is a matter of perspective.
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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  16. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Err...the Renaissance occurred from the 1300s to 1700s centuries. The period you're talking about is about 900-1200. Sooo...not a strong correlation there. Moreover, Europe and Islam were actually at war during that period. And every other, come to think of it. As for the "Golden Age for Jewish Culture", perhaps you've heard of Maimonides? And dhimmitude?
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I heard the Jews were leaving in droves for the enlightened West.

    And the Renaissance was a result of the Islamic Age, the Europeans destroyed all the works which the Arabs preserved, remember?

    http://www.twf.org/Library/Renaissance.html
     
  18. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Holocaust 1945

    Iraq 2006
     
  20. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    You may have missed the point in your links about what also befell Jewish citizens of islamic countries:

    I like how the author calls it "violent conflict between Jews and Muslims", as if it were both ways or something.

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    The link: a supremacist da'wa site?

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    Please, don't bother. I note other articles therein as thinly veiled islamicism, such as this:

    So: the actual story is characterised immediately as a "conspiracy theory".

    Good job. You picked a supremacist site for your much-vaunted link. Kudos.
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Then you have incontrovertible evidence, do you?

    I like how media hype gets converted to established truth.

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    And like I said, the Jews were leaving in droves for the enlightened West. Now they have Palestine, they are certainly proving how they deal with their problems, aren't they? Considering their educated democratic example in the backward ME?
     
  22. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I thought we were talking about the "Islamic Golden Age", sam? Except that it wasn't so golden after all.

    Dross. Iron pyrite: A "Fool's Golden Age".
     
  23. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    And the author does? My position is at least based on facts, and required no anti-semitism to float it.

    LOL - ditto, Sam, ditto.

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    Except that my interpretation has facts behind it.
     

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