Oh, I agree. Sometimes they even take to calling their opponent an extremist, even when the opponent's held the same, reserved position he always had. And people see this change, and they begin to wonder: what happened? Why the change? Were they always extremists and didn't know it? Or maybe, at the core, it's an article of their belief system, or maybe it's the result of a little too much pushing, or maybe a little too much truth, or maybe just that that someone gets backed up against those same articles of faith, handed down by some mythical deity, and doesn't know which way to jump - but not forward. Not that. That would be a betrayal, of...something. Something they've never seen, never touched, but only felt inside - a little tremble they convinced themselves they felt one day, in that sunshine, in that place, chest ringing to the force of the human voice, not knowing why they felt this way but needing something to cling to to keep away the terrors at the fringes, the fear of being helpless and alive, like an animal. A little something; man, god, give me something. Don't let me fall into the black, they think, and they'll do anything to convince themselves they won't. So in the end, it doesn't really matter how often you win the rounds - their attitude doesn't change. Then again, on the internet, no one's ever really does.