Iron Sky Review

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  1. ScaryMonster I’m the whispered word. Valued Senior Member

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    There are a few entertaining moments in Iron Sky not the least being the premise of the film, I think the best moments belong to Stephanie Paul as the President of the United States and her parody of Sarah Palin.
    Her star chambers like United Nations meeting takes a lot from Dr Strangelove and it’s a shame that she didn’t feature a lot more in this film.
    The Moon Nazi’s, except of the main female lead Renate Richter played by Julia Dietze are, for the most part stereotypical goose stepping goons only bent on world conquest, which I guess is fair enough for Nazis. It’s what they do isn’t it?
    But in the end this film is too flippant and trying too hard to be ridiculous, I can see what Timo Vuorensola is trying to do with this film. It could have worked with a better scriptwriter. It is mildly entertaining in a weird Finnish way.

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  3. Snocrash Registered Member

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    Interesting, never heard of this film. Is it one of those things were it's so bad it's good, or is it just not worth seeing at all?
     
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  5. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Unwatchable.
     
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    Haha, noted
     
  9. ScaryMonster I’m the whispered word. Valued Senior Member

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    I'd say Unwatchable is a little bit too strong a comment for this film, undoubtedly its bad, but then there's bad and there's Highlander 2 the Quickening bad, which everyone would just love to have permanently expunged from their memories.
    Id just say its stupid with a few production values. Basically a waste of time.
     
  10. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    What film?
    There is no film called "Highlander 2: The Quickening".
    It never existed.
    Ever.

    Unfortunately the premise alone means that I will undoubtedly end up buying it, if for nothing else than to watch on a drunken evening with friends!
     
  11. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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  12. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    I caught 'Iron Sky' at the cinema and thoroughly enjoyed it. People who don't rate it simply miss the geek references. From movie references, pop culture references, and Internet meme's it was top comedy.

    The CGI was excellent, the political satire well observed, and the pace meant if felt longer than the running time, they kept things moving nicely.
     
  13. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    I agree. I left the cinema with my friends, and we all started saying 'but the can't have left planet 'Zeist' at the same time' and 'why did he come back, if he was only immortal when there were other immortals', and 'the script writer can't have even watched the first film'. I pretend that film never existed, it was the Dallas 'dream in the shower' equivalent for me.

    Rent or buy it, and enjoy it, it's hoot, ignore the haters, they just aren't as as smart as they think they are.
     
  14. ScaryMonster I’m the whispered word. Valued Senior Member

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    I understand what you mean about the popular culture references in this film, the problem I had with it was that I thought it was it was trying too hard to be farcical.
    It kind of reminded me of Dr Strange Love, but without the great script and super talented actors like Peter Sellers and George C Scott to name just a couple.
    As I said, Stephanie Paul as the President of the United States and her parody of Sarah Palin is the most amusing thing in this film.
    I'm not a hater, I think it was a good attempt but I think more work on the script could have made for better film. The premise is a intriguing.
     
  15. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, who are these weirdos who go on about this non-existant Highlander sequel? The move was very clear that there can be only one.

    It's probably the same nutters who are always talking about Metallica's later work. Everybody knows that Metallica died with long hair in a tragic plane crash in 1993.
     
  16. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    People also claim that Elvis lives and such. Greatness is always immortalized and it's not unusual that this will lead to urban legends such as "I saw Metallica in concert in 1999" or, "I watched a sequel to that Highlander movie."

    That these events simply never happened, like most UFO abduction claims, does not stop the claims. In fact, it leads to conspiracy theorists that believe that "the truth" is being suppressed.

    It's pretty sad, really and though I admire Highlander and I thought Metallica was great- I cannot ignore the tragedy of their demise in '93. I cannot ignore the search and rescue attempts and all those volunteers that gave countless hours in the freezing cold searching for the wreckage and bodies. I cannot "unremember" the photographs in the news of Hammett and Ulrich in the remains of their plane or the sad crowds in mourning that gathered in Berlin, Washington, New York, Chicago and Sacramento.

    I cannot forget how long I waited for a sequel to come out to Highlander only to have the producer announce that the series was concluded and there were no plans for a sequal. Remember that interview with Christopher Lambert? He discussed post production of "Why Me?"
    I argued with one poster almost three days and in spite of posting links to the Mythbuster episode on "Highlander 2" and Snopes articles covering the origin of the myth, the guy still swore up and down he owned the DVD!

    I end the debate when they go to the lengths of lying.
     
  17. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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  18. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    No, I wanted humour, using the invasion as a loose frame, and I got what I expected.
     
  19. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    I thought it was earlier than that, returning home after a triumphant tour promoting the 'Black' album, during which time they admitted 'And Justice For all' was an un-authorised release created by a junior studio technician from recordings made from the band tuning their instruments for the previous album.
     
  20. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Right - 1993, just before they were set to return to the studio to record their next album. Too bad we'll never know how that one would have turned out.

    I've always been kind of puzzled by the hate that ...And Justice For All gets. It's certainly not their best work, and no doubt Cliff Burton was the best bass player they ever had, but taken on its own it seems to stand up well enough. The harshest criticism I've heard of it that I can agree with is that the lyrical content became too rigidly moralistic and reactionary. That said, I also don't understand why there is any dispute as to whether ...Justice or Seasons in the Abyss is the definitive "last" (first-wave) thrash album. I'll take the latter any day of the week.
     
  21. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    I was immensely disappointed with it. It's a mess. It's soulless. The production is too clean, apart from totally blurring out the bass, which just gets lost as background noise. In 'Master of Puppets' there's some almost inaudible bass lines, that just rumble and shake, but it works in the songs it's used in. 'Justice for All' just erased Newstead's performance pretty much.

    And then there's the drumming,.... Lars just can't pull off half the shit he's trying there, it's like free form jazz, but he misses the beats all over the place, Lars isn't really even a good timekeeper. It's also in my mind the point they started to sell out, milk the media and stopped doing all the things that turned me onto them in the first place.
     
  22. The Marquis Only want the best for Nigel Valued Senior Member

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    Iron Sky is a stupid movie. If you couldn't download it in 1080p, no one would even bother. Actually I deleted it to save HDD space.

    Other than in the odd isolated teen saying "I see what you did there

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    lol" with reference to the odd cultural reference, no one would bother.
    I agree with the Sarah pain reference, though. Stephanie Paul did a good job. One saving grace in an otherwise waste of time. Pity she wasn't given the opportunity to perform that in something more worthwhile.
     
  23. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Definitely agree that the production on Justice is too "clinical," and that they went even farther in that (bad) direction from there on out. The arrangements themselves are likewise a bit "sterile," and I think that's a big reason why Slayer's output from the same time (and subsequently) holds up so much better.

    But I just don't find the bass to be particularly inaudible, at least compared to the standard way that bass is mixed in heavy metal recordings. Which is not saying much, since the bass is typically just about inaudible in your standard metal record, but it goes to expectations. Had Metallica not gone into that release with a reputation for bucking that trend and featuring Burton's bass playing very prominently, I'm doubtful that this would have become the standard complaint that it did. Certainly, nobody seems to care that nearly every other metal album ever released since 1980 has the bass mixed down to the point of disappearing.

    Yeah, but there's also songs with Burton playing actual lead parts and solos on bass. That is something that Metallica never did again, once he was gone...

    Yeah, his drumming was always the weak link in that band. One thing that recently cracked me up was the (totally accurate) observation that pretty much all of his beats are modified polka patterns. Never occurred to me until someone pointed it out, but now every time I hear Metallica I imagine an accordion and yodeller playing over the drums instead, and crack up.

    That said, Ulrich does seem to have improved considerably over the decades. I hadn't been following Metallica closely for many years, but recently saw some live footage of them playing older tracks, and the drum patterns had been totally changed up. He was playing much more ambitious stuff than I'd been accustomed to, and was pulling it off (at least at the concert footage I saw - I believe this was a performance of "Orion"). I had to actually stop myself and mentally revise my dismissive attitude towards him...

    The only part of that I'm familiar with is the fact that the made a music video on that album - was there other stuff along those lines that turned you off? At the time, I was in elementary school and living in a small town in the middle of nowhere, so Metallica was still very "edgy" in my world. But surely my perspective would be different now.
     

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