Is "anything truly possible " ?

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  1. river

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  3. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    I agree, River. To infinity ... and beyond (which mean the same thing.)

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  5. just me Registered Senior Member

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    the sqaure circle does not exist.
    therefore there is a sqaure circle which is subject to non existence.
    therefore the sqaure circle exists also.
     
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  7. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Where are my trillions of dollars???
     
  8. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    Wow, you managed to misspelled "square" all three times there, bud.

    That's an obvious logical contradiction, which means you probably don't understand the basics of logic to begin with.
     
  9. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    Providing the existential character of a supermental world is impossible since any materialization of perception, feeling and thought processes falls under the classification of mental or related labels. This includes technical descriptions outputted by reasoning / inferential activity which are blatantly representational to begin with; and historically might have been perversely claiming at times to be capturing the essence of non-mental being or a metaphysical realm. Symbol mediated procedures/affairs have to be manifested (consciousness) like anything else as evidence that they are even occurring, not to mention requiring intellect to create and manipulate signs obeying rules.

    The proposal of a supermental world can be made and asserted for _X_ reasons, but it has to remain empty in terms of how it would exist minus outer appearances, sensations, and descriptive representations of humans (and animals?). No "psychological" contamination.
     
  10. just me Registered Senior Member

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    They exist somewhere you can not get to them unfortunately.
     
  11. just me Registered Senior Member

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    It must occur anyway.
     
  12. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Anything is possible, should we have everything.

    God gave us everything by doing NOTHING.

    He was the first, and by taking no part in society, we are trapped like fish in a barrel. It gives us everything, and therefore anything.
     
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    H2O , is not uranium . To your first statement . Regardless of everything we have now and into the far future .

    Water can not suddenly become a mineral .
     
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  14. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    Pluto has mountains made of ice, so there must be mountains made of water ice somewhere in the universe. Now, if we define "mountain" too specifically to include them, then okay...but that's either semantics or the No True Scotsman fallacy. I don't think "anything is possible" but I do think water mountains are. (A square circle certainly isn't nor is there going to be a universe filled entirely with superintelligent e coli bacteria).
     
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    Hmm... I'm going to , blow some minds here , but the square is in the lines of the circle , NOT WITHIN the circle . But the lines . The delineation .

    Now can the reverse be true , can in the lines in the square be a circle ? No . Because the square has only one possible shape . Except for the corners perhaps ?
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Mathematics
    If it is mathematically allowed, not only will it be possible, it will be inevitable (99.999999999% probability), given sufficient time and space.

    The fractal function is an expression of mathematical probability. It affords an infinite set of mathematically allowed shapes.

    p.s. It just occurred to me that in a Dynamic World there must be a mathematical requirement of equal opposites.
    This essential metaphysical mathematical requirement is clearly observable in all universal functions.

    Examples of Interaction Force Pairs
    https://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/Lesson-4/Newton-s-Third-Law

    If it is mathematically allowed, it is possible. If not mathematically allowed it is impossible.
     
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  17. elte Valued Senior Member

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    Anything is truly possible yet some things seem too unlikely to contemplate. My human thinking at the beginning lacked doubts. I didn't know any need couldn't be met and sobbed, expecting the gods in my life, parents, to fill them. Learning and experience gave me more and more doubts.
     
  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Remember, human thoughts are only "best guesses" by the brain. It is capable of imagining things that cannot mathematically exist. That's how we can write science-fiction.....

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  19. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    No. There are lots of mathematical constructions that have no apparent relation or application in the "real world".

    First of all, there's not just one "fractal function". Second of all, fractals aren't really generated by functions, but rather by recursive procedures. Third of all, fractals are deterministic, not probabilistic.

    That's meaningless word salad. What on earth is an "equal opposite"? For instance, what's the equal opposite of a tomato?

    What is a "universal function"?

    You seem to put great stock in Newton's third law of motion for some reason, but that law is only about one thing: physical forces. It is not a general law that says things like "For every black, there's an equal and opposite white" or "For every tomato there's an equal and opposite anti-tomato".
     
  20. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Would you do anything for someone? Would you be perfect? Yes. Suffering and evil are easily nothing.
     
  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    No doubt, but they are "possible", albeit "probabilistic", dependent on time and space?
    I was thinking of this;
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/mathematics/fractal-function
    It was a poor choice of words.
    I meant to describe a "zero state" universe. A "whole" consisting of two "opposite" halves
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-energy_universe
    The way the universe functions. For one, the "wave function"?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_function

    The mechanics of the universe?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanics
    I did cite the context ; "Examples of Interaction Force Pairs"
    For every particle there is an anti-particle?
    or more subtly; It’s possible that there is a “mirror universe” where time moves backwards, say scientists, January 18, 2016
    The two-headed arrow of time
    https://qz.com/596514/its-possible-...se-where-time-moves-backwards-say-scientists/
     
  22. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Interesting juxtaposition; Current events happen going forward in time, history can be traced going backward in time...

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  23. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Not for humans, but for God, anything is possible, river. If you believe in God, of course.

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