If you don't want to discuss the philosophical notion that relates belief (and from there faith) and knowledge then just say so and I'll leave you to your peas. Write4U seemed to be alluding to that notion, but if you want to ignore it then please do. You may also want to investigate the opening post of this thread where the working definition of faith was given (i.e. for the purposes of this thread). So you can put your dictionaries away, lest your museum wonders where they've got to.