Is God good ?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Thomas Cranmer, Oct 22, 2017.

  1. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah and he gets some stick!
     
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  3. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Surely God made "goodness" and Satan made, "what is bad." But then God made Satan, so perhaps He is responsible for both?
     
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  5. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    As I understand the situation Satan was a high level exec (angel) in heaven (may even have been 2ic)

    However he wanted 1ic (where would that ambition have come from?)

    god said no and kicked him out

    Satan left taking others with him (or, maybe NOT taking), others just joined him in leaving

    Now you would think that the leavers would set up a rival heaven in competition, a Disney World on steroids

    But it seems their business model was to be to get the souls of those who god was pissed off with

    I can see the reasoning

    If if if you are in competition you have to work hard

    If you are just picking up rejects easy peasy

    He is responsible for both?

    Sure he is, he never took the envy gene out of Satan before putting him to work

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    By the way my time line on creation is very hazy - when did god create angels? before or after Universe 6 day effort?

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  7. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    100% agree.
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I read a book once called
    Satan, His Psychotherapy and Cure by the Unfortunate Dr. Kassler, J.S.P.S*
    *Just Some Poor Schmuck

    (Yes, that is the actual name of the book)

    In it, Satan goes on a rant. He says "Your idea of who I am is a giant slur campaign. Why would I torture my subjects - who I love?"
     
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  9. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    And......

    Don't leave us in suspenders

    What was the reply,?

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  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Gods' reply; ~~~~

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    Don't pretend to be ME !.......
     
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  11. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Satan's reply

    I love your rejects more than you do

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  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    God's declaration
    You don't know what love is!!!!!
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    It was a rhetorical question.

    Obviously, the "logic" we've been taught about a Satan who tortures his own people makes no sense.
     
  14. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Are you referring to Job?
     
  15. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    The logic we've been taught that God loves his people while he tortures them, makes no sense to me either.

    I don't buy the hypothesis that God tests people's belief in Him. A good God doesn't need to test his beloved subjects. That is the mark of a paranoid dictator.....

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  16. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    The trouble with testing is if someone calls the testers bluff: springs the trap.
     
  17. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Moody.
     
  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No. In the book I mentioned Satan is on a rant about how "Hell" has been popularly portrayed.
    "Why would I immerse them in fire and brimstone for all eternity? I love them."
     
  19. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Wait..., I always thought that God decides who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. The "Pearly Gates" are not the entrance to Hell, they are the entrance to Heaven.
    And if hell is not made of fire and brimstone, then what's the difference between heaven and hell?
     
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  20. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Job is a good book, it will show you who is evil, God or the real "Satan", God or Satan. Was Satan just doing his job?
     
  21. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    And Satan is capable of love.

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  22. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Satan cannot love, he's an angel.

    EDIT: But he does know what love is.
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    LOL, this is getting curioser and curioser. [/quote]I'd say he is a psychopath. They have no empathy, but know what love is, without being able to experience it.
     

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