Is it wrong to have sex for fun, knowing it might possibly lead to an abortion?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by SetiAlpha6, Feb 12, 2019.

  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    There are no miracles in history. They only exist in historical accounts by word-of-mouth.
    Then list those "some of it (miracles)" with a link to a book on history please. Else it is just word-of-mouth again and that doesn't count as history, right?

    The bible is not a book on history. Genesis proves that in the first few pages.
    Two accounts of "loaves and fishes" In Matthews and Mark and a lame belated explanation that they were separate events. Each with a different number of people and loaves and fishes anf baskets.

    Which then is the correct historical account or was history passed on by word-of-mouth and of course took on a life of their own just like mundane "rumor" and "hearsay"?
     
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    So you used to be ignorant...

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    ...now in you'r current posts you have evolved to stupid

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    Mayb less Bible study woud help to slow this regression

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  7. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    On your 5 year quest did you read wiki at all?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments

    Oh, and were is this;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablets_of_Stone
    I treat all hearsay from three thousand years ago with incredulity. Especially when the experts disagree.
    Five years, wow, it took me five minutes to learn that the experts cannot agree on this historical fact.
    Correct, nor do the experts.

    Only Lewis Black knows.......


     
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  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    wow ! lewis is awesome.
    stage presence & timing...
     
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  9. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    As I said, the social contract.
     
  10. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    That whole idea is rubbish.
     
  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Interesting. May I ask by what standard are you judging God's righteousness in all His judgements?

    Take an example, if you like: the killing of all the first-born sons of Egypt at the time of Moses's liberation of the Jewish people from slavery in Egypt, which I know you believe actually happened. You say it was right for God to kill all those innocent Egyptian children, because God is righteous in all his judgements. Agree?

    Now here's what I'm wondering: Was it right for God to kill those children just because God said it was right? Or was it the right thing to do independent of what God said about it?

    See, the thing is, if it's only God's say-so that makes things right or wrong, then morality is a slave to the whims of an arbitrary God. Do you agree? If God says the murder of innocents is right and good, then it's right and good, regardless of anything else we paltry humans might think about it.

    Is this how your personal morality works? God says homosexuality is evil, so that makes it evil and there's nothing more to say? Or what?

    Just to be clear: on this view, killing of innocents is wrong (or right, as the case may be) only because God says so - no other arguments as to why it might be right or wrong "count", because God is righteous by default in all his judgements. And in that case saying that God is righteous in all his judgements isn't to say anything of substance other than "God is God, and God gets to set the rules". After all, under this system of morality, there's no way to decide what is right or wrong other than by referring to God's arbitrary dictates.

    I will be most interested to learn from you whether this is how you decide your personal morality, SetiAlpha. I look forward to your response.
     
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  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    is it wrong to force your own moral ideology at the point of a sword and then expect your own religious ideology should be protected by other peoples lives ?
     
  13. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Here is a question for someone who claims to possess a surety in the accuracy of the Bible -

    Did God create Man or cattle first?
     
  14. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Written by whom?
     
  15. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Society.
     
  16. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    where is it written?
     
  17. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    In the patterns of social interactions that human beings engage in when they participate in a society. Moreover, it is those particular patterns which are generally considered to be normative for the functioning of society for mutual benefit.
     
  18. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    An assumed contract? So there are no codified rules?
     
  19. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Were you not aware of this? Are you unfamiliar with the term "social contract"?

    If this is your first time encountering the term, it might be a good idea for you to google it and then we can discuss after you've got yourself up to speed a bit more.

    By the way, didn't you say you were leaving? You're still here.
     
  20. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    It would seem that the social contract is quite pliable. Would you agree?

    I have some time to kill. Are you complaining?
     
  21. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Maybe. In what sense are you saying it's "pliable"? What do you mean by that?

    No. Just wondering why you made such a production about banning yourself and/or taking a break from the forum, when it has all amounted to nothing. It's all a bit the boy who cried wolf.

    Carry on.
     
  22. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    The social contract changes over time.


    I didn't see it as a "production," nor did I cry wolf. I thought you might be tired of my participation and offered you an opportunity. It appears that it's not an issue,

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    As for taking a break, I might or might not. I might be feeling one way one day and another way the next.
     
  23. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    do pro choice people seek to pro choice morality they try and force into law to force others to comply with their forced fascist dictatorship of religious ideology ?
    is there pro choice in there somewhere ?
     

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