Is it wrong to have sex for fun, knowing it might possibly lead to an abortion?

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  1. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    I never even thought of selling it. I give it away for free.

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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I already granted you the assumption that this cloth was wrapped around the body of Jesus. How does it prove anything but that Jesus died from a crucifixion and bled on it? How does it prove the resurrection?

    Bonus question, if it were proven to be forged, would you stop being a Christian?
     
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  5. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    There are two cloths mentioned in the Gospel accounts in the first century.

    One was a head covering only and the other was a full body covering.

    Both have been found and they both match each other in blood distribution very closely. They both have real blood on them not paint.

    Check the studies and see if they found any iron oxide for us and report back, if you would be so kind.
     
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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    So what? A book written after his death mentions a cloth and you found the cloth? How does this prove the Bible's supernatural claims?
     
  8. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    How was it created according to the findings of the scientific study. They should have been able to debunk it in minutes.

    Bonus Question = Go ahead and try!
     
  9. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    Good one! Thanks for a laugh!
     
  10. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Not my argument. Try debating the argument proposed. I already granted the shroud was real, for the purposes of this discussion. I'm trying to make it easy for you. How does it prove the resurrection? I'm starting to think you have no idea.
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The Shroud of Turin is evidence for the resurrection of Jesus because...
     
  12. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    Why would it not be wise to protect life as much as possible, and only allow the killing of innocent human life when it is absolutely necessary, when there is no other way?
     
  13. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Women die from childbirth. They should have a choice not to risk death.
     
  14. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    You have to study it for yourself. I cannot make you study the scientific studies for yourself. You are on your own spider. It is your choice.
     
  15. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    Of course, and they die from abortions.
     
  16. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    About now would be a good time for you to, not really study the evidence, and then declare to all that once again, evidence does not exist for the resurrection. Or something similar.

    Go ahead... It is always so moving!
     
  17. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    And yet none of them mentioned that Christ's image was embedded in them. For 1300 years.
    They have never studied any of that material - only material from the edges.
    And yet you said you might not protect life if it inconvenienced you. Strange. It's almost as if you hold others to a standard you yourself are unwilling to meet. There's a word for that . . .
     
  18. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    They usually have a choice of whether or not to have sex. Usually they do have a choice. You know that silly!
     
  19. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    That is not what I said.
     
  20. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    Both of these are incorrect.

    These scientists wanted to debunk the Shroud, how inept at their jobs do you think they were?

    And they did find iron oxide on the cloth. What were the conclusions by the team that worked on it, look it up and let the world know your findings.

    Thanks!
     
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  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    You said you would donate organs to save another life "if appropriate." So some times you might not protect life, because it wouldn't be appropriate.

    Next question - who should decide when it's appropriate? You or the government?
     
  22. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I wanted to know if The Almighty lets zygotes into heaven.
     
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  23. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    Well we do have laws all over the place that protect life. Are you against those?

    Like... Is it legal for a father to kick the stomach of his pregnant wife to attempt to cause an abortion on the spot?

    Should the government decide that? The father has rights to.
     
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