We know that the Russian hacked the DNC, allegedly to get opposition research information on Trump. https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html But now that information is being used against the DNC and forced the resignation of the DNC Chair, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Now Hillary's campaign managers claims that the leaked information was released in an effort to help Trump get elected. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/24/politics/robby-mook-russia-dnc-emails-trump/ Putin has expressed his admiration for Trump and I'm sure Putin sees him as a valuable tool. So I can believe it. Still, the possibility that Putin is trying to influence the election is striking to say the least. ************ Dammit! I didn't mean to post yet, apparently hit return, and I misspelled Putin in the title. Isn't there a way to edit the title right after posting? Could a mod fix that please.
This may be true, because Putin sees Trump as the best hope as a stabilizing force in the world, since the USA is the last standing super power, and the next president can lead to stability or instability, for Russia. The EU, which is supported by Hillary, is undergoing a stage of instability in its strongest nations, due to the influx of immigrants. These have been displaced from Muslim countries, due to bad policies by Obama and Hillary. Putin does not want countries like Germany, to go into a flux of instability and decline. This is how Hitler came to be. The UK was smart to leave and is trying to assimilate its immigrants, trying to maintaining the first world identity that made it great; re-stabilize itself. With UK gone, Germany has to do an ever larger share for the EU, leading to more strain on Germany. The USA is at its own tipping point, where, for example, illegal aliens; who begin their stay in US with an act of lawlessness, are given an advantages over law abiding citizens and immigrants. This is sold as compassion, but it is leading to a backlash, which is why Trump became so popular. Too many liberal groups are using emotional extortion games; PC, to gain extras and freebies they dis not earn, at the expense the majority who have cover the tab. Hillary, like Obama makes promises to buy votes, using government handouts. This has to be paid for by those who have to work, and means more debt for the future and more taxes in the present. This is not stable, and will lead to a tough future for the children; chaos. Putin is old fashion. He sees Trump as a man of practical skills, as reflected by his self made wealth; billionaire, and his company in construction, which builds tangible things. But the Democrats and Hillary are more about emotional value added without net tangible value. For example, a pet rock has no tangible value based on common sense, but it may have intangible value based on subjective manipulation. Once the spell wears off, there is net loss and nothing to show for it. Putin was with the KGB and knows about mind games and propaganda. The democrats don't fool him, since one can see the tangible value is low; debt is huge. The EU is being led by the promises of non tangible value; utopia, leading to tangible problems. Trump, by being more tangible minded, will lead to tangible results, and not just constantly unexpected consequences of subjective value added. Subjective value added was why Obama and Hillary acted as they did in the Middle East. It sounded good and made people feel good and hopeful, that the Muslim brotherhood would stabilize the region. But since the vision was based on emotional thinking and not grounded in practical reality, they therefore missed all the warning signs, that the more practical minded people saw. Trump saw this then because his mind is not clouded with utopian fantasies of grandeur. This is not to say that Trump can't appeal to emotions and unify the Democrats. His tangible building projects also have a connection to the subjectivity of prestige; resorts, golf, and casinos. Prestige things always appeal to subjectivity minded people, which does not require thinking. One is shackled by the heart to stay attached to things that make no logical sense. Trump can throw them an emotional bone to shackle them, if they still need this, due to the fear of being free.
The last think Putin cares about is stability. He is old school KGB and wants power. He would like to resurrect the Soviet Union. In Trump he likely sees an egotistical ass [like himself] who is easily exploited. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...tin-bids-to-make-russia-a-great-a7036911.html
And another interesting wrinkle, Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manifort, has a history of helping with Russian interests. http://www.politifact.com/global-ne...anafort-donald-trumps-top-adviser-and-his-ti/ With Putin swooning over Trump and visa versa, it is starting to look like a regular bromance in the works.
What Putin sees in Trump is an America which will not support those it has pledged to support. Putina sees Trump as a man who will let Putina do whatever he wants to do, who won't interfere with Russia's aggression against her neighbors allowing Putina to continue invading and annexing the lands of his neighbors as Hitler did so many years ago. I don't suppose you have any evidence to support any of that? No you don't, you never do. You just mindlessly repeat whatever Republican entertainers tell you. Obama and Hillary aren't buying votes. Unlike Republicans, Hillary and Obama have polices which favor most Americans. Republicans like to complain about Democrats doing things to benefit hard working Americans, but that doesn't make those policies wrong. Republicans like to benefit and give things away to Republicans. For example in Kansas a state controlled by the Republican Party. Republicans outnumber Democrats by more than 2 to 1. Democrats are just for show. They control nothing. So Republicans do whatever they want in Kansas. So what have Kansas Republicans done? They have eliminated income taxation on the state's wealthiest citizens. While working Kansans pay 4% of their income in state income taxes, the state's richest residents pay nothing. Except, Trump's wealth isn't self-made. Trump doesn't appear to build much. He appears to make most of his money licensing his name to other development projects. If he would release his income taxes, which he refuses to do, we would know this and that's probably why he refuses to release his income taxes. As for the rest of you post, it's gobbledygook. It doesn't make sense. And you seriously think that makes any kind of sense? It doesn't. Who is promising the EU anything? Well that explains the Trump phenomenon, and why Trump appeals to the Republican base and why Republicans are "attached to things that make no logical sense".
Murmur and Buzz Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Steve Benen↱ works a manner of narrative that adds a certain punch to politics, but some days actually working the punch would seem like overkill: The evidence is not yet conclusive. The available information, however, points in an alarming direction: * The New York Times reports today, “Researchers have concluded that the national committee was breached by two Russian intelligence agencies, which were the same attackers behind previous Russian cyberoperations at the White House, the State Department and the Joint Chiefs of Staff last year. And metadata from the released emails suggests that the documents passed through Russian computers….. Whether the thefts were ordered by Mr. Putin, or just carried out by apparatchiks who thought they might please him, is anyone's guess.” * The Washington Post reported overnight, “In the past 24 hours, cybersecurity experts have said that the email cache released by WikiLeaks on Friday appears to have been given to the anti-secrecy group by Russian intelligence.” * The Washington Post also reported the other day that the Trump campaign, which generally took no interest in the Republican Party's official platform, took special care to add language about U.S. policy towards Ukraine―a new position that contradicts GOP foreign-policy orthodoxy―that brings the platform in line with the policies of the Russian government. * The New Yorker’s Ryan Lizza, reporting last week from the Republican convention, said he'd spoken to a GOP congressman who believes the “most under-covered story of convention” is Team Trump's efforts to change the party platform “to be more pro-Putin.” * Noting Trump's anti-NATO posture―another break with decades of Republican thought on foreign policy―The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg, a center-right observer, noted last week, “Trump is making it clear that, as president, he would allow Russia to advance its hegemonic interests across Europe and the Middle East.” * TPM's Josh Marshall had a lengthy piece over the weekend, highlighting Trump's financial ties to Russia. * The Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol, an anti-Trump Republican, wrote, “If Trump and Manafort don't act to allay these concerns by releasing their tax returns (or in other ways), wouldn't it be advisable for a Republican member of Congress to lead an urgent investigation into whether Putin is interfering in the current American election? Trump and Manafort may be Putin's chumps. Will other Republicans sit by as the whole Republican party becomes Putin's party?” * While some have suggested that these questions lend credence to conspiracy theories, the Washington Post’s Anne Applebaum raised an important point: conspiracy theories tend to focus on allegations of secret misconduct; many of Trump's ties to Putin are already out in the open. No, really, just running through the list sounds like piling on. ____________________ Notes: Benen, Steve. "New questions surround Putin’s interest in Trump’s election". msnbc. 25 July 2016. msnbc.com. 25 July 2016. http://on.msnbc.com/2a7wmSm
And by the way, much of Trump's money comes from Russian investors. So he has a vested interest in keeping Russia happy.
And then there is the fact Trump's campaign manager worked for Russia's Ukrainian vassal who was overthrown by his people.
Is the current election cycle in America a failure of democracy? The candidates have been nominated, but by whom? Donald Trump is crazy, the most ill-informed and un-informed presidential candidate in history. And, he is actually proud of this, he shows no inclination towards learning anything about foreign policy, or anything else. His approach to rapprochment is: "Show me the money". The idea that he could win the most powerful position in the world is truly scary, actually it's something you should be terrified of. Will his alleged association with Putin and the Kremlin derail his campaign? Remember, we're talking about America here. Trump appears to have just asked the Kremlin to help him get elected, are there enough idiots in America who can bat this one away and stay glued to the Trumpian vision? Probably.
Well, today Trump called on his buddies in Mother Russia to find and release Clinton's emails. Wow, I never would have imagined the Republican Party jumping in bed with the Russians, but it has happened.
No kidding! If there was any doubt that the Republican Party is history, that should be gone by now. They no longer exist. It is the party of Trump and Putin. Vote for Comrade Trump. He will serve mother Russia well.
What seems certain, is that Clinton's campaign managers want you to believe that the Russians are helping Trump. Beyond that..............................nothing is certain.
And that Putin is much admired, even favored, and well-connected in the US Republican Party - at least since W's famous bromance with the guy, if not before, and right through the attacks on Obama that compared him to the strong and successful Putin. http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/11/06/the-seduction-of-george-w-bush/ https://www.buzzfeed.com/bennyjohns...-w-bush-and-vl?utm_term=.mlYW4gLlR#.rvQ9vD4gV
I never thought I would hear this from the Republican nominee. The Republicans nominee has urged a foreign country to hack Clinton's email and release them. Immediately Trump's minders, his VP nominee and the Speaker of the House, were out trying to clean it up. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-cyber-idUSKCN10723A
What Trump said: "if Russia or any other country or person has Hillary Clinton's 33,000 illegally deleted emails, perhaps they should share them with the FBI!" and "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press," Trump said during a news conference in Florida. "They probably have them. I'd like to have them released," he continued. "Now, if Russia or China or any other country has those e-mails, I mean, to be honest with you, I'd love to see them." http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/27/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-hack-hillary-clinton/ Trump tweeted Tuesday that the Democrats were trying to "deflect the horror and stupidity" of the leak, calling the suggestion "crazy!" meanwhile WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who began publishing thousands of the emails last week, said Monday there's was "no proof" Russia was behind the hack, and on Tuesday told CNN that "a lot more" material was on its way. https://wikileaks.org/ Say what you will about the rampant insanity in U.S. politics, but it does have a certain entertainment value.
This is what Trump actually said, "Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,". Immediately after Trump said it, his vice presidential nominee and the Republican Speaker of the House were out trying to clean it up. The fact is Trump said it, and Trump never apologizes, don't cha know. Trump never makes mistakes. So he never apologizes.
No need to wonder; Russians have supplied the money for many of his projects, and indeed his campaign chairman worked closely with both Putin and Yanukovych. And Putin himself has endorsed Trump.
Trump, 2007: "“Russia is one of the hottest places in the world for investment. We will be in Moscow at some point." Trump's son, speaking about his father's investments in 2008: "In terms of high-end product influx into the U.S., Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia." From the NYT 6/17/16: " . .. . the weekend was fruitful for Trump. He received a portion of the $14 million paid by Agalarov and other investors to bring the pageant to Moscow. Agalarov said he and Trump signed an agreement to build a Trump Tower in the heart of Moscow — at least Trump’s fifth attempt at such a venture." Trump 2014: I "spoke directly and indirectly with President Putin who could not have been nicer." Trump Nov 2016: "I got to know him very well because we were both on 60 Minutes, we were stablemates, and we did very well that night." Trump Jun 2017: "I have nothing to do with Russia, nothing to do, I never met Putin, I have nothing to do with Russia whatsoever."
