have you forgotten what side of an issue you are on? what have you disputed? i just agreed that there is no evidence. what i said was not anti-science. you completely made that up at this point. now you want to pretend i did not agree. are you not happy unless you can bully that forum, is that it? so if i concede that fringe cannot produce evidence based on the type of topics, you as a 'scientifically educated people' will dispute that? then by all means please, then dispute it by presenting scientific evidence in favor of ghosts, apparitions etc. i mean really how fierce or not of a farce can a challenge be when members who apparently pride themselves on their grasp of physical reality, the scientific method as well as current knowledge expect physical evidence for an apparition etc. you would have to be an idiot yourself to demand such knowing it's not possible. this is why the fringe does not belong here on this forum. lmao.