Is the Bible the WORD of God or the WORD of Satan?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Greatest I am, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Grok'd!
     
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  3. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Modern Jews not even believe what their ancestors wrote.
     
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  5. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    The Jews admit that they are not the descendants of the Ancient Israelites in their writings. Under the heading of "A brief History of the Terms for Jew" in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following:


    "Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew."
    (1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3).

    The above is from : http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/Ashkenazis.are.not.the.descendants.of.the.Ancient.Israelites.htm

    More interesting reading there.
     
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  7. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    I agree to a point. At the least, Josephus was quite bright when he invented Jesus.

    Those control methods were around before those players though.

    Socrates lived what, 469 BC.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJgvws0ZYUE

    Overall, I would say that we are no brighter today than we were back then in psychological terms.
    Sure, science has improved systems but they are still old systems that were invented long ago.

    Regards
    DL
     
  8. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    No problem but I am looking for your moral view of it.

    Does their history show a moral God or not in your view?

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    DL
     
  9. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    "moral God"?..."chosen people"!..."self-fulfilling prophesy"!..."invented Jesus"!..."moral God"?

    Mr.GIA, would you find any "moral" view or "moral or not, God" view, that deviated, in any way from your own, "ambiguous" or at the very least, "skewed" views, acceptable?
     
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  10. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    I cannot opine on something I do not see.

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    DL
     
  11. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    You're deliberately evading the issue, aren't you?

    A soldier or a police officer or a bus driver can sacrifice his own life for others. That is not "human sacrifice".

    If Jesus sacrificed himself to save us - to get us probabtion, parole or pardon - that is not "human sacrifice" either.

    Christians do not "believe in human sacrifice".
     
  12. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    God is moral by definition. God defines moralty.
     
  13. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    aha...therein lies the rub...
    Mr.GIA, would you, or could you allow yourself to truly "see" any or all "moral" views or "moral or not, God" views, that deviated, in any way from your own, "ambiguous" or at the very least, "skewed" views?
    I only ask because of previous "sight" problems that you "seem" to have "experienced"...
    so...therein lies the rub...

    on a completely unrelated digression - brought on by the notion of "sight problems" -
    what are your 'views" on whether or not the fellow in this photograph should, could or would have "sight problems"?

    View attachment 6477
     
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  14. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Yet they are all lined up to profit from one showing that you have no clue as to what you are talking about.

    As to your general theme of humans dying for each other, yes, that is quite noble.

    Note that the soldier' C O did not throw the grenade and then order the soldier to throw himself on it the way God did with Jesus.

    That truer scenario shows the God you are promoting to be an insane God.

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    DL
     
  15. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Do you agree then that genocide against mankind is good justice and that having your child needlessly murdered is also good justice?

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    DL
     
  16. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    God didn't order Jesus to sacrifice himself. Jesus volunteered.

    The "truer scenario" is that the CO gave an order and the soldier sarificed himself to prevent some collateral damage. That is not "human sacrifice".
     
  17. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus wasn't murdered; he was executed - more words that you don't understand.

    You can't dictate somebody else's morality according to your own standards. I can't say it's "immoral" for you to spend your time blathering on the Internet instead of helping the needy.

    If you understood morality better, you wouldn't say such silly things about it.
     
  18. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Ok. There was no sacrifice. I agree. Now Christians do not get salvation.

    Done here.

    Regards
    DL
     
  19. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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  20. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    There was a sacrifice. The soldier (Jesus) sacrificed his own life. The civilians (Christians) were saved.

    There was no "human sacrifice". Why is it so hard for you to admit that?
     
  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    His religion requires him to believe in Christian human sacrifices.
     
  22. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Does it? I thought he ws supposed to be a Gnostic.
     
  23. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I was gonna say. Yeah, Greater doesn't follow Christianity.
     

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