Is the god of Christ the god of Jews?

Is that ALL Jews? Many of them believe he is bequeathing land leases, for instance. I would call that interference in personal lives to a significant extent. And they believe in Heaven and Hell, just not the Christian heaven and hell

They also apparently believe in reincarnation

 

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The god of Christians is not the same as that of Jews. There's far more differences than similarities. The one of the Jews is more similar to that of the Muslim than the Christian...but the Muslims wouldn't know since they don't have any of the books.

 

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Actually Islam claims that Jews [and Christians] have the same God. The Quran talks a lot about Jews as People of the Book and as Bani Israel. And that Jesus was a Prophet of the same God and his Gospel teachings were changed by men.

There is also a sura that says all mankind is one nation and has received prophets at different times to guide them on their way. But that time and people change the message, which is why prophets come again and again.

 

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Hence, we can expect the Quran to hit the rubbish bin in favor of a new prophet?

 

The Jews have ditched the Torah, then?

 

that is fantastic. so basically we can expect one to mozy along and pillage every few hundred years or so? wow, that's just great.

 

something how that works out.

 

Actually in Judaism there is a heaven and some believe there's a hell. But at the most, hell is a dark cave where bad things come from it's not a place where you go when you die. So essentially there is only heaven where you go.

 

Welli mean considering that there are several thousand DIFFERENT translations of the Kuran....and 19 are used anyone can question what is taught in th Kuran. Atleast the Torah only has 1 translation

 

Exactly, that's why your comment is irrelevant. The message of the Quran has already changed and John Smith has already been here.

 

Have you seen the Old Testament?

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Besides, I think its the flexibility that makes the Quran a living scripture. Rigidity does not cross culture and time. Everyone is free to choose the benefits of knowledge.

As the Quran declares:

[20:114] Do not be in haste with the Qur'an before its revelation to you is completed, but say, "O my Sustainer! Increase my knowledge."

 

Nonsense. A contradiction. Muslims MUST obey Allah, hence Muslims are forbidden to increase their knowledge beyond the Quran. People are made of clay and the moon was split in half. Qur'an 5:92 "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger, and beware!"

 

You must be getting old and your memory fading, we've already had that discussion.

 

Q'Ran can say whatever it wants. It was written more than a thousand years ago, Christians have changed a lot since then...Jews haven't for the most part. Today the religions are nothing alike. Considering Islam 'borrowed' much of its teachings from Judaism...much of its practices from Judaism and many of its behaviors from Judaism. Christians don't. So it's easier to similarities in Judaism and Islam over Christianity. For example; Christians are not strict monotheists at all.

 

Isn't the Old Testament also borrowed from the Torah? I think the problem with Christianity is that it was reinvented by the Romans [through the Councils of Nicea] who combined it with their pagan Gods and made Jesus into an Italian icon.

Present day Christianity has moved very far from its origins. But then, so have present day Jews.

 

Is this surprising to anyone? After all, these religions are carried on by living people with limited lifespans. I'm sure 2,000 years from now humans will look upon the U.S. Constitution as primitive, naive, contradictory in some cases, yet with any luck a nation of people will still abide by it.

 

Much of the Talmud was written between 2000 and 1900 years ago. It couldn't change too much.

 

Why? Jewish scholars did not have any opinions for the last 2000 years?

 

Fraggle is correct; there have been no new opinions in Judaism since the giving of the Torah. The only disagreements that exist are on very minor things that only came with moving. For example, Ashkenazi won't eat rice on Passover because they consider it sustenance equal to bread, where Sephardim don't consider them equals and will eat it.

The Talmud speaks of a lot of things that never changed, it spoke about the earth being round, which Maimonides did commentary on. The Zohar discusses atoms at decent length, and Sepher Yetzirah has been around for at least 2 thousand years. The only difference is back then it was common knowledge if you were an Israelite.