Is this anything special?

Discussion in 'General Science & Technology' started by Johenric, May 6, 2012.

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  1. Johenric Registered Member

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    Well the first one is nothing like i have (mine is a bit simpler i think) and the second link looks to be a fake to me. Air brush pushing the second one off screen looks like to me.

    Mine moves much faster then the first link but much slower but more constant the the second link.
     
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  3. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    There is no danger of that, you don't even understand basic physics. Don't want to be too pessimistic, your curiosity is admirable, but nothing is free in nature. Magnets do not product free electricity.
     
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  5. Johenric Registered Member

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    Well I just checked down stairs and it is still spinning. I don't think the device cares if i know physics or not.

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    The more i get told it can't be done and the longer this thing keeps spinning the more excited i get.

    Anyone know where i could buy an already built simple generator? I really don't want to have to build one of those too. I see some picks of simple hand crank operated ones. I would love to buy one of those if anyone knows where i can get one. I'm not talking about the cardboard box ones, those have way to much friction on the cardboard to magnet going on.
     
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  7. auser Registered Senior Member

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    In order to induce a current in a coil you need a changing magnetic field. If you rotate the magnet it changes N to S to N to S... in relation to the coil, in turn inducing a current. This is why AC (alternating current) is used and can only be used for transformers.
     
  8. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Are your spinning magnets surrounded by a coil of wire?
     
  9. Johenric Registered Member

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    No. I have not tried to produce any energy from this yet. No coil is anywhere near this device.

    All i have so far is a magnetic device that has a pinning part. That's it, nothing more nothing less.
    My idea is to attach that spinning part to a rod that is attached to another magnet next to a coil to power an led bulb.
    I'm guessing from what i have learned here is that in doing this the resistance from the coil will stop my device from spinning.
    But i am going to give it a shot anyway.

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  10. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Here is your best bet - take a video of this device and upload it, then share that with us.

    And yes, resistance from the "generator" coil will slow and eventually stop whatever it is you have that is spinning unless some outside force (ergo, power) continues to force it to spin.
     
  11. el es Registered Senior Member

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    You really do not have to produce electricity to prove your point. All you have to show is that your "motor" has enough torque and a high enough rpm to turn a generator.
     
  12. el es Registered Senior Member

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    Are you using permanent magnets on both the rotor and stator?
     
  13. Johenric Registered Member

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    If i understand your terminology correctly, yes.
    Rotor = parts that spin
    Stator = parts that don't spin?

    On the video part i am not going to upload anything until i know this thing isn't going to stop and that i get some sort of a patent.

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    Perpetual Motion?

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    HAHA

    I must admit i do feel silly talking about this as thousands of people a heck of a lot smarter then me say it goes against everything we know. Kinda like a little kid that is so sure that 2+2 = 5 and no matter how many time you tell them it is 4 they are not listening and will have to figure it out for themselves.
    At this point i'm guessing i have just made something that is really efficient.
     
  14. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

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    Probably. If you take a magnetic top and spin it over a superconductor or other method to get a levitation effect, the top will spin a very long time, because you've eliminated most of the friction that would slow it down. It won't do anything but spin though, and eventually air friction will slow it. In space, spinning something would be the perfect situation, but the minute you connect something to it, it will stop.

    As long as you try to learn what's going on, experiment, and ask questions, no one will laugh at you. It's the ones who pronounce they have broken the laws of physics and won't listen to anyone who points out basic problems that are the problem. Because sometimes new things are discovered by trying things differently. But you have to understand what's going on before you can shout that you've proven [insert scientist/principle here] wrong.
     
  15. Johenric Registered Member

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    Thank you everyone. You have all been a lot of help in helping me understand what is going on with what I am doing. I will give you guys an update here in the future with whatever happens with this device i have made.
     
  16. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Congratulations, you made a flywheel. It can store energy and it can keep spinning for a long time. This technology is used in F1 race cars, and there are even some large underground flywheels used to store energy for household and industrial use.
     
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  17. el es Registered Senior Member

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    Don't expect fame and fortune, expect trials and tribulations.

    "We don't grant patents on perpetual motion machines" said the examiners at the U.S. Patent Office.

    "It took Johnson about six years of legal hassling to finally obtain his patent,..."

    http://www.rexresearch.com/johnson/1johnson.htm
     
  18. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Yay, he fooled someone at the patent office. It still doesn't work.
     
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