Islam and its factual claims

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Unconcept, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Tha's fergot about ice age agin, Kremmen.
     
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  3. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    I don't offer a counter claim because I can't be arsed to do the research right now, I've more compelling things to learn.
     
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  5. Unconcept Registered Senior Member

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    You'll wait one more day?! What if you die by then?
    Repent to Allah before it's too late!
    "But when Our Signs came to them, that should have opened their eyes, they said: "This is sorcery manifest!" [27:13]

    Btw, "Ibn" means "Son of", they call him Ibn Abbas as meaning "Son of Abbas"
     
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  7. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Yes but I want a nice mat.
    I'm not just going to buy any old mat.

    I've found this about global rainfall.
    The total amount of rain falling on land surfaces across the globe remains relatively constant in each decade. The distribution of rainfall is patchy and dry desert areas are clearly visible. On a global scale the size of very dry or very wet areas changes only slightly. However it is predicted that the intensity of rainfall events will increase leading to more water running off the land and less being retained in the soil.
    from http://www.waterandclimatechange.eu/rainfall/global-rainfall-maps

    Not quite what Ibn said, but close enough I think.
    I still think it's more to do with weather than divine intervention,
    but that's one nil to you.
    We'll have a look at another one tomorrow maybe.

    Have you got any more scientific sayings from Ibn we could look at?

    (I am only joking about the prayer mat.)
     
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  8. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    It's fine. I'll just do some sorcery.
     
  9. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Better buy a cup too, Geoff.
     
  10. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I just drink it straight. You want to avoid plastics, mate.
     
  11. Bells Staff Member

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    Well if he dies 'by then', I'm sure the Mormons will convert him to their religion so it will be one less heathen peeing on Heaven's lawn..
     
  12. spidergoat Venued Serial Memberlist Valued Senior Member

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    Allah needs to repent before me, otherwise it will be too late, and I won't be able to forgive his sins.
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Unconcept, you've slipped from asking for facts from rational people to preaching to them. Is that what you meant to do?

    Wait ... you're kidding around aren't you?

    You must be. I know you are a Qu'ran critic, so you wouldn't be preaching except in jest...
     
  14. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Kidding? You could be right but I don't think so.
    I hope not. We have an oversupply of jokers.

    I think unconcept is a devout Muslim,
    but has doubts about claims for religious writers
    having a knowledge of science that can not be explained through the learning of the time.
    Perhaps he could comment on this himself.

    Usually, on this type of thread,
    the poster will post their ideas, and then will not defend them.
    Unconcept is willing to reply.

    I'm glad you picked me up on my initial rudeness to him
    He's a bona fide poster, and has scientific knowledge.

    @unconcept
    Please avoid any future comments which infer that people not holding a particular belief will be punished by a deity after death.
    That is something expressly not allowed on this site, and it is only being tolerated because you are new here.

    Similarly, encouragements that a person adopt a particular religious faith, are not acceptable.

    Those are the rules of the site, and I hope you can abide by them.
    If not, they will ban you.
    It's not your fault, because by this time some member, possibly me,
    should have mentioned those rules to you.

    On the other hand, the mocking of religious faith is also banned.
    So let's all work within the rules from now on in this thread.
     
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  15. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I just mock faith, without it being religious faith specifically. I'm sure that's allowed.
     
  16. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    How about a statement like this, "Those who believe in God but believe God has partners or parts will surely be chastised by God after death unless they change their belief to God not having any partners or parts before dying." Note this statement does not speak of any particular belief system.



    I know what he's saying but on a side note there's a wise saying "Time and tide waits for none".
     
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  17. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Doesn't it mean Christiianity though?
     
  18. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    @Captain Kremmen


    Assuming you're replying to me how does what it means matter when it's not demanding adherence to any particular belief system.​
     
  19. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    Don't be coy
    That is specifically directed at christians and their concept of the trinity of god.
    Feigning ignorance doesn't work.
     
  20. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    @SPP


    Nice try, but it is not specifically directed at Christians or the Trinity the fact is any theist can conceive of God as having a partner or parts so the statement doesn't target any particular belief systems either.​
     
  21. Chipz Banned Banned

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    Somebody sent me this image earlier today, does that help?

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

     
  22. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    That's a direct reference to Christianity.
     
  23. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    That's a chick.
     

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