Islam and its factual claims

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  1. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    What happens to a person who thinks God's a douche? I mean, not parts, but a whole singular used douche. You know, whole. Not parts. Like when gods talking, "He" doesn't have a mouth, He IS voice. Or when He's creating, then He IS creation. Or when he's douching, then He IS one big douche.
     
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  3. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    Feigned ignorance, no surprise there.
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You have 14,000 posts, and this is the quality of your answer? This is the Religion forum; presumably it behooves contributors to maintain some semblance of respect.
     
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  7. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    You're late to clean up this one-horse town, sheriff.
     
  8. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    you do know technically speaking circumcision is genital mutilation and technically speaking it really took of thanks to jews right?
     
  9. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    the only think stupid is your stubborn and biggoted insistince of anything even remotely attached to islam is bad.
     
  10. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    Read post#77.
     
  11. Bells Staff Member

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    Are you supporting the claims made by the OP as being correct? For example, do you believe that the writings about evaporation in the Qu'ran is a miracle and we can ignore the fact that anciety societies like the Egyptians had been using evaporative cooling methods for generations prior to that? How about the colour of a woman's vaginal discharge? Is it a miracle?

    How about the claim made by him that if someone does not convert to Islam and they die tomorrow, then it will be too late? Do you think that was 'good'?

    A word of advice... Choose your fights better..
     
  12. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I did. Not a sufficient excuse.
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Seriously guys,
    is not a direct reference to Christianity or the Trinity.

    In context of the other comments, though, it is without doubt what he meant, no matter how slippery he wants to pretend he is.
     
  14. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    Actually it's your accusation that's insufficient.



    I meant exactly what I wrote.
     
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  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Not is not a denial.

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  16. spidergoat Venued Serial Memberlist Valued Senior Member

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    Yup.

    If it's based on faith, then I think it's bad. Faith undermines our intelligence and dignity as human beings. I'm not bigoted, since I have no animosity towards the people that hold these beliefs (some of them close friends). It's the belief itself that I object so strongly to, and the stupid behavior that results from those beliefs. Islam is one of the worst, since it has undergone very little reformation due to the influence of the enlightenment and secular society, and it's so abhorrent to the rights of women and freedom of thought. What other religion prescribes death to those who leave it?
     
  17. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    That's the original intent.

    It isn't. Enough already.
     
  18. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    @Geoff


    The comment doesn't imply it is directed at Christianity so prove that it does the onus is on you to prove it because the claim is yours.​
     
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  19. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Historically, it's always implied that.

    You're trying to distance this statement from that, but that's what it was invented to refer to. Is it that you want it to mean something else now? So you're saying that Christianity, then, is not a belief that God has partners? Or that Christians are one of several or many groups that you assert make partners with God?

    http://sg.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061110111634AA2tnVs

    Actually the initial claim is by you that it doesn't refer to Christians. I gave you one link of probably - what? thousands? - that it does. So, 'splain away. Which traditions or references will you be drawing on? Or are you just being wider in your accusation?
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Retracted.

    Apologies. First time I read through this, I went back to your post previous for historical context and could have sworn your post immediately preceding it made reference to Christianity. I cannot find it, and conclude I was in error.

    So, not only retracted, but acknowledged that you've made no reference to Christianity, let alone a direct one.

    Defining a set of things to which that one particular thing belongs, is not making a reference to that particular thing, either directly or indirectly.

    That's not Chiller's problem.

    The second one.

    Yes. He's defining a superset.
     
  21. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    A superset it may well be, but the original meaning cannot be ignored.
     
  22. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    Apologies accepted.

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    I was making a statement of an abstract that has real world representations of course but it is an abstract because the idea in the statement can be represented in the real world by anyone under any title.
     
  23. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Not exactly something you'd just pull out of your ass. Are you saying its meaning is untethered? Come on. Why not condemn people who wipe with their right hands, instead? Or play sports? Or who take God's name in vain? It's defined as it is for a reason.
     

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