Israel begins sell-off of refugees' land

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  1. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    err the same way its has been enforced on other countries in the past?

    Most (if not all) international fund transfers go through banks which are regulated by goverments or the goverments themselves. You cut off the money surply you cut off the ability for a corupt goverment to buy ammo and there for you cut off there ability to win. As most of the money surply to israil comes from the US all it would require is a vote in congress rather than the UN to serverly cut israils "punch". You can further inhanse this by trade embargoes and the next level again by a full naval blockade of the country (though this one would require a UN resolution i belive)
     
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  3. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Other countries did not have the Israeli lobby.
     
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  5. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    international law says that what the refugees owned cannot be taken. But than considering Israel's compliance with international law.



    Ok what most people acknowledge as "theirs" so they won't throw a hissyfit.
     
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  7. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    I expect them not to be self absorbed(minimizing everyone else and inflating themselves and their needs and concerns) greedy(taking more and more land that isn't theirs when they have availibe land that can be used.) bigoted(putting one people above all others) assholes( all of the previous reasons) and given the past 60 years that's too much. I expect them to treat the rightful owners of palestine with respect and work toward a future where all residents of palestine can live and prosper there in equality.

    thats closer to tranliteration than translation.
     
  8. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    To reiterate.
    The binding law of custodianship under refugee property rights is being violated. Period.
     
  9. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    That's the Israeli attitude...probably not going to change.

    It's neither. It is however, a joke.
    'Justice' --> התפשר ("Compromise") -->هيمنة ("Dominance")
    توصل الى تفاهم ("Compromise") --> שמד ("Religious Persecution") --> 'Peace in the Middle East'
     
  10. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    Probably not but just because the right thing is impossible i9s no reason not to try and achieve it.
     
  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    It will, simply because they have turned into a society where violence is acceptable. That kind of attitude doesn't take you very far. Collectively, they will change how Jews are viewed by others [from victim to aggressor] and themselves in a way that will put them at odds, not only with the very polite and thoughtful Arab societies that surround them but also a world getting increasingly diverse and well connected. Their approach is anachronistic to any person who lives in a mixed society and considers all humans as equal.

    Here is an example of what they face

    Bi'lin Habibati
     
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  12. Fukushi -meta consciousness- Registered Senior Member

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    What would happen if all the people talking about it on the internet, would come out of their cave, get together and actually protest on the streets about it?
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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  14. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    nothing
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Who cares what Cheski translated? The issue is refugee land being sold off by Israelis. Start a new thread in linguistics
     
  16. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    No, it's being sold by Israel (to Israelis). The issue would be very much different, if this were something being done by some individual "Israelis."
     
  17. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    So under these circumstances, the LAW does not apply?
     
  18. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Huh?
     
  19. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Israel's history is full of injustice and full of killings the innocent people .
     
  20. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    And what of the History of the Arabs in Palestine, and Arab States, it is a history full of injustice and killings of innocent people, the Jews and their own fellow Arabs.
     
  21. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Déjà vu indeed !.
    And indeed !.
    What about the atrocities of the US and their puppets NATO ?.
    Read history as it is its own witness !.
    :shrug::shrug: .
     
  22. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    That's a major load of podunk right there. Israel's population is suddenly exploding and they have nowhere to go? Then what's all this talk about a demographic problem and how not enough jews are being born? I mean, you could have tried to either deny this report or provide a different explanation and context, or you could have passed it off as a minor incident and not a major factor in the big scheme of things, citing positive developments as a contrast. But no. You decided to tie this thing in to a settlement freeze, which is utterly ridiculous and embarasses your cause more than it helps.

    Firstly, the report says the settlers were pushing their herds out to the very edges of their fields and beyond. The wording implies that they had plenty of room for their sheep to graze on their own lands, but instead they chose to push them out as far as possible, to be utter righteous pricks to their neighbours. You didn't challenge this claim, you tried to justify it. Gee, where have I heard people trying to come up with intelligent and systematic justifications for the crimes of their countrymen before?

    Secondly, if a population bursting at the seams is a valid excuse for invading and then stealing someone else's land and property, why is this not a valid excuse for the Palestinians? You think you guys are crammed in tight? I believe Gaza is now the most densely populated region on the entire planet.

    Thirdly, Israel has a (comparatively) vast and mostly unused region in its southern underbelly, called the Negev. As I understand it, all kinds of infrastructure projects are currently underway to make the region more habitable and profitable for future generations. Once all the tree planting and water desalinating kicks into gear, the whole region will be like a lush oasis in the desert. So if there's a lack of room to move, why not focus on that instead of kicking a bunch of Palestinian farmers off land their families have owned and worked for generations? And in any case, screw the Negev. There's lots of unused and unsettled land up in the northern parts around the Golan. "We need more land" just isn't a valid excuse, that's the kind of thinking which will isolate and destroy your country.
     
  23. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    Orthodox families have 8-10 kids...and the birthrate of Israel is still higher than the majority (if not all) of 1st world countries.

    I don't know anything about this, it seems like an isolated incident with factors currently unknown. So most likely you don't know anything about it either.

    Probably because no one agrees on the boundaries in the first place.

    The Negev has no water resources. If war were to occur everyone there would be outside of Israel's capability of defense. It's militarily, economic, and socially bad idea to colonize the Negev.


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    I've got a solution. Iran owes Jews 600billion dollars from illegal confiscations. That's on par with the HIGHEST claims of Gazan value...so high they're absurd. In any case...why doesn't Iran take every single person in GAZA to the Jewish confiscations...and Iraq, which owes 20billion will pay for transport. And then Egypt will pay to feed them on the way with their 15billion. Then Morocco and other northern African countries could pay their luxuries with their confiscated values. Sound reasonable? Why not? The Mizrachi live in poverty today thanks to those lovely countries.
     
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