Israeli/Hamas disregard for human life.

Discussion in 'World Events' started by StrawDog, Feb 5, 2009.

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  1. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    Note how the radical with little or nothing to explain the position they cling to, reverts to self-examination, then dismisses any evidence of their stance being wrong; this is in keeping with the requirement for an inflated sense of purpose, when there is no purpose, no direction except clinging to a belief, and inflating that sense of purpose in having that belief.

    Such people never actually appraise themselves objectively, since they are the only object that matters; any opinion or belief must therefore be the only opinion or belief that matters...
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    That explains the Americans and Europeans moving in and still occupying Palestinian land.

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    Not to mention the demographic threat of non-Jews in the "sovereign" nation.
     
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  5. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. Now back to your lessons.
     
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  7. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    A sovereign nation can allow immigration or not as they see fit. Like it or not, Israel is not Palestinian land any more. Israel is recognized by the UN and most nations around the world.
     
  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Unfortunately, apartheid has nothing to do with being sovereign nor does ethnocentrism, real or imagined. German crimes were not less heinous for being conducted by a sovereign nation
     
  9. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    If you call it apartheid, then you acknowledge that the land is Israeli territory.
     
  10. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    There's been some speculation that the documents are false, of course; but frankly, given the extremity of the regime, safe is better than sorry.
     
  11. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Well then, you've essentially ratified Israeli immigration then. So we can put the objections on that score to bed. As for the "apartheid" claim, you could argue that Israeli encroachment on the West Bank is vastly unfair - yet at the same time, they've also withdrawn from Gaza, so the situation is not as uniform as you like to imagine.
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    except of course, that there are Palestinians who want to return. What other country in the world denies natives the right to come home and instead opens it's doors to foreigners who share an assumed identity that is neither religion nor ethnicity but based on mythology?
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Apartheid has nothing to do with sovereignty. It is possible to practise both xenophobia and racism against natives of a land while occupying them
     
  14. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    And? There are Moroccans who want to "return" to Spain, which was a bad proposition a thousand years ago and has not improved since. There are German revanchionists who want to return to Prussia, to the Sudeten, to Alsace-Lorraine. There are Armenians and Jews who want the return of their property and rights in the Arab world, and in Turkey. Will they be allowed to return also? Are there subtle differences in these claims?

    Actually, if you wanted to argue genetics, they would actually have a stronger claim to the region, seemingly. Nor is their identity "assumed", as we have shown.

    But let's leave that aside for a moment - Israel is the sole homeland of Judaism. Do they not at least have the right to buy land from Arabs? Is that impermissible because they are Jews? In which supremacist system does this strike you as reasonable?
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Homeland of the Jews. The Palestinians do not exist.
     
  16. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, both exist. Both should have their own state, since they cannot live in peace, the specific reasons of which being thrown up for debate, then eaten, and thrown up again, and devoured again while still warm.
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think an American who moves to Palestinian lands to fulfil a religious fantasy he is brainwashed into is equivalent to a Palestinian who wants to go home.
     
  18. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Actually, I think the Israelis should just go for the one state solution, shove the Arabs right out of Israel.

    The Arabs rejected U.N. 181 and started the war, the Israelis need defensible boarders, and the West Bank is a dagger at the throat of the State of Israel.

    It is time for the Arabs to clean up the mess they made, and settle the Arabs from Palestine in their own countries, after all they confiscated 4 times the amount of land from the Jews they ran out of Arab countries as exist in all of Israel.

    By Right of Victory, Israel exist and has established a Nation, and so it shall be.
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Hopefully the days of tribalists such as yourself, also responsible for the treatment of native Americans in this same manner, are numbered.

    Israel will not last in it's present form another 50 years. Anyone with a brain cell can see that.
     
  20. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    The level of irony here is proportional to the billions spent by Israel convincing Arabs they want to live in peace.

    All those shells and cluster bombs, all wasted. Those ungrateful Arabs. 'tsk'
     
  21. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    hi Spidey

    pls explain to me the implications of bombing the Aswan Dam?????

    Zak
     
  22. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    Hey Buffalo,

    i hope all is ok with you

    this is ethnic cleansing buffalo!!!!!!!! come on you dont really want that do you

    And if the Arab leaders did do that to the Jews as you state then that would mean that Israel is just as bad as the Arabs..

    But yes as i have said for a long time the one state solution is the way to go with one person gets one vote regardless of religion ethnicity etc and with the same rights etc etc,

    zak
     
  23. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Who says he's brainwashed? Are Palestinians also not brainwashed?

    I'm sorry, but there simply isn't any denying that immigrating Jews bought their land. All the claims of theft result from the loss of the invading Arab armies in 1948. Considering what they were going to do to the Jewish defenders, the taking of those territories seems justified.
     
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