It makes no sense

Discussion in 'Religion' started by fess, Feb 19, 2020.

  1. fess Registered Senior Member

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    it made perfect sense to believe in a human-like loving active God when we thought the earth was at the center of a small universe and everything revolved around us and all the workings of the world were mysterious.
    But now that we know know the universe is at least 90 billion light years across and our entire lives happen in a tiny instant of time on a small speck of dust revolving around a non-descript star in a non district galaxy, just one of untold billions.
    Every time we bump up against the limits of our knowledge, we assume some mystical answer for our unanswered questions.
    Maybe wel'll understand the universe completely one day, but much more likely, our brains did not evolve in a way that the universe could ever make complete sense to us.
    There is no good reason to believe an intelligent, caring being created this vast universe for us, other than to make yourself feel better.
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Well ... yeah.


    While I agree with the sentiment, it is no more based in fact than a theist's argument. Atheists are the rational ones - the ones who acknowledge that simple, personal "common sense" doesn't cut it. I hold rational, science-minded peeps to a higher standard.
     
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  5. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Uh, I'd say it is probably deeply rooted in early childhood development. That we don't want scary monsters under are beds, we want Santa to bring presents or we want to belong to a family...
     
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  7. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Then don’t believe.
    What are you stressing for?
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Jan makes a good point.

    Do you (fess) have a need to convince others of your belief?
     
  9. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Do you believe in Santa?

    What happens when you don't believe?
     
  10. fess Registered Senior Member

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    Hardly stressing. Just wondering why so many obviously intelligent people believe something that seems so obviously unfounded and .....actually silly
     
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  11. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Presents?

    Well if Santa exists he is either me or he doesn't like me. I have hung my expensive stocking out, that could hold a nintendo switch and nothing, 2 years in a row, not a sausage, what a greedy lazy bastard. Maybe murdering a million a day doesn't put me in anyones good books. I'm innocent.
     
  12. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Why the need to wonder. As you’ve already started to create a scenario, based entirely on your worldview, why not just finish it, according to your worldview. That’s all it can ever be.
     
  13. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    There is nothing Jan can't rationalize using faith.
     
  14. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Don't believe - still get presents

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  15. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Weirdly, that catch-all seems to have dropped some kernels from your apron, this time.

    Y'know, somewhere between corny and nutty ... er―oh ... I see. It's creamed.
     
  16. fess Registered Senior Member

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    When you see people doing something you think is odd, don't you wonder about it? Don't you think, "well that's strange, why would they do that?" I've yet to hear a reasonable argument for it
     
  17. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    What is “odd” about being a theist?

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  18. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    You’re not going to accept any argument for it, and it doesn’t matter if it is reasonable.
    What you’re attempting to secure in this thread, is the idea that atheism is the normal standard. It isn’t.
    But I accept any atheist argument, because no matter whether they are being reasonable or not. Because they are atheist.
     
  19. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Huh?
     
  20. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Probably because it comforts them.
     
  21. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Of course Santa is real, he's on Twitter.

    Really, what happens when you stop believing in people like Santa, a little of the child dies.
     
  22. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Something about a can of corn, except when it isn't.
     
  23. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I said... “Why the need to wonder. As you’ve already started to create a scenario, based entirely on your worldview, why not just finish it, according to your worldview. That’s all it can ever be.”

    No faith required.
    An atheist will always reason like an atheist.
     

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