It's Down to Biden and Bernie

Discussion in 'Politics' started by (Q), Mar 5, 2020.

  1. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Why, though? I haven't really run across any articles or commentary pointing to that, but I suppose anything is possible.
     
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  3. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    As you can see Wegs, Jeeves made clear with just a few of the begged questions regarding a woman being elected president based solely on gender. Its not so cut and dried as we would like to believe. The last election that got Trump into power was very telling as we watched people being interviewed especially at the Trump rallies. Lots of women there despised Hillary and for no good reason whatsoever other than they were sorely uninformed, just like their husbands.

    So, it's not really so much about gender, but instead, as Jeeves points out, a whole lot of other underlying issues are at stake.

    For example, the other night, Bill Maher was dissing Bernie Sanders on his decision to not accept money from certain people or organizations, yet Obama was happy to take money from anyone and everyone. He took money from Wall Street and then turned around and screwed them over with his reform bills, then at the next election, took their money again and screwed them over again. This is why Bernie can fail at getting elected simply because he doesn't understand that money is neither good or bad, it's just money.
     
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  5. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The President does not pass bills.

    During Obama's tenure the Federal government protected the banks, and the bankers, and Wall Street generally. He did not "screw them over" in the least, even by executive order or DOJ emphasis and policy - a few wrist slap fines on the corporations (not the perps), a small part of the revoked New Deal regulations reinstated without much additional enforcement, a temporary pause in the dismemberment of the IRS, and in general the setup we have now set up - the big banks got bigger and more powerful, nobody went to jail from an executive suite.

    Obama called that "looking forward".

    Trump didn't have to make any significant structural changes, to get us the current US economy. Wells Fargo is still operating as a bank in good standing, even growing, with branches in my home town. The local police recently agreed to expand the local jail's population to include even more immigrants of unknown status (presumably illegal, but never formally convicted, some of them) for Homeland Security's convenience - afaik there isn't a single felony-committing Wells Fargo bank officer in that jail.

    Tell that to the political operatives who won the Citizen's United case in a rigged Supreme Court. Or the people who lost it.
     
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  7. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Actually Obama did screw certain banks over- he screwed the smaller up and coming ones that didn't bet on the US housing bubble and were in prime position to rapidly grow their market shares, only to watch billions of taxpayer dollars get handed over to the big players with friends in high places in both the Democratic and Republican parties, rescuing them from sinking in their own doodoo. I'm pretty sure that's a screwjob mostly appealing to the Republican side, though.
     

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