James R: The S.A.M Issue

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  1. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Might is right???
     
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    According to Biblical tradition, yes. God chooses who wins wars.
     
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  5. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Kids, I am having a long weekend and you can't decide the course of action without me???

    Sir, you are my new hero. Very well stated, there is nothing to add.

    As about Sam, don't let her post in Politics or in Religion, problem solved...If she doesn't behave, zero her postcount.
     
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  7. Sputnik Banned Banned

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    These days , I don´t post here very often .. but I have to say the above post reeks of negativity, hate and disrespect .......

    Anyway, SAM´s posts are sometime hard to digest , but not always for the reasons mentioned by James R .........

    SAM´s posts often contain large amounts of eloquent sarcasm/irony to a point , where people get offended - and jump to the conclusion, thinking that SAM´s posts are racist/hatefull/problematic ......

    I sometime think , that the real problem is the narrowness of peoples minds here ........

    Anyway, just my 2 cents .........

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  8. mike47 Banned Banned

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    You said that you are an atheist.....remember ?.
     
  9. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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  10. Gustav Banned Banned

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    The legend of the brave Dutch boy - by others thought to be named Hans Brinker - who supposedly put his finger in the dyke to prevent a flood, was actually a literary invention by the American writer Mary Elizabeth Mapes Dodge (1831-1905), who was born in New York.(link)


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    garbage in garbage out


    flailing in the wind as usual
    i guess you do what you can

    /spits


    an appeal to emotion
    lacks substantiation

    you are better suited for another board
    we frown on that sort of thing here
     
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  11. Gustav Banned Banned

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    sorry you got it backwards
    this thread is an opportunity for james to provide substantiation for all his accusations of misconduct directed towards sam

    it is he who has to convince me of his righteousness

    a peer review of sorts
    i expect the reasoning proffered to be rigorous as befitting a science board
    currently all that has be put on the table are what appears to be empty slogans
    i expect that to change to something more substantial
    after all, this is sci, ja?
     
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  12. Gustav Banned Banned

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    a very good suggestion
    now
    a moment of your time



    give me an analysis
    is this an appropriate question or is it as james says.... hatred and propaganda?
     
  13. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Appropriate; deserving of thoughtful attention.

    (IMO as member & moderator)
     
  14. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    What I don't get is why she hasn't been banned yet. Other posters who have posted similar material have been banned.

    I haven't spent much time here lately either. I find that when I do log on and look at the threads, it is like I never left. It is the same old thing day after day after day. It seems like the majority of the threads being made in the past little while is just the same propaganda. I can't even be bothered to comment in them because when I do I am called a racist among other things.

    Considering the amount of posts made by SAM (it's like she lives here) it seems the board has been taken over by the same old arguments and threads.

    It seems like since she lost her modship she has become worse. What are you waiting for? Maybe she needs a vacation from this place like you have given to other members here when they keep talking the same bullshit.

    Didn't Baron get banned a few times for spewing nothing any worse then SAM? and he doesn't post nearly as much as she does. :shrug:
     
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  15. Gustav Banned Banned

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    decent question with easy answers
    as such i shall refrain from stating the obvious
    instead....some symbolism.......

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    ironic ja?

    TEMPE, ARIZONA - During the Bush era, peace protests were presupposed. If the President of the United States showed up anywhere, so did the protesters. Now that Barack Obama has taken over the helm, though, peace activists are debating and rehashing protest strategies and often not protesting at all. (link)

    we shall give it our best shot, sam. party politics is a bitch tho. most have vested an illogical amount of trust in the president to do the right thing while my protestations to the contrary have been brushed aside with bullshit platitudes.

    "we are on it"

    yeah,
    that is of course when there is a lull in the high fives and congratulatory pats on the back

    /spits
     
  16. Gustav Banned Banned

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    another mindless whine
    banned for goddamn what? what similar material?
    put some frikkin effort into it if you want to be accorded even a touch of credibility

    /spits
     
  17. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    Gustav, in one form or another I have probably been here for longer than you have. What I did was correctly define what SAM has been doing. Trying to substantiate claims of my unsubstantiation with statements that I am appealing to emotion does nothing to change that. The evidence is located in the threads that James R linked. It's also located in this thread, where SAM condemns every individual Jew living in Israel simply for living there.

    If I were Jewish, I might be offended by idiots like SAM. She provides no actual intellectual contributions. She has shown no interest in learning from others. She has closed herself to reason by choice, and she now remains here to carry out a very single-minded agenda, and intellectualism is not a part of that racist agenda. Sad but true, so it needs to stop. She exists here to create thread upon thread defaming a single ethnic group, or to convert other innocent threads into discussions with the same purpose -- and that is almost all she does anymore. That's messed up, and we tolerate it because (1) SAM is not white like most of us and because (2) white people are usually so far above and beyond the inferiority complexes that plague most other racial groups and the people belonging to them (like SAM) that we simply aren't fazed as badly.

    However, it's still ignorant. And racist. And it shouldn't be going on.
     
  18. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Let me see, a Muslim trolling on a science forum about atheism. Yes, we are narrowminded....
     
  19. Gustav Banned Banned

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    well congratulations
    it appears that you have learned nothing in your stay here
    provide the link(s) to the post(s) you take umbrage with
    that is a 250 post thread that was shut down for being offtopic
    you expect me to wade thru all that crap?

    you have evidence?
    lay it on the table
    provide a starting point for your premise and build up to the conclusion


    jesus christ
    why do i have to browbeat you guys for what is supposed to be the sop of sci

    note: i did wade and....... the ball is still in your court, oh tenured one
     
  20. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    1. Are we to believe that the posters on Sci are not adult or mature enough to find their own equilibrium regarding which threads they choose to post or respond in? We need intervention against perceived "rogue" posters?
    2. Notwithstanding the negative comments regarding SAM preceding, the fact remains, that she expresses factual and rational comment, albeit at times interlaced with emotionality. Is it OK to be human?
    3. I think this is a mountain out of a molehill issue.
    4. Forums come and go. SAM, and spirited posters like her, is an example of why Sci sticks out and survives.
    5. Having said that, I am sure, given enough feedback, posters on this forum can adjust their behaviors in line with said feedback, which would be in the wider interest of all.
     
  21. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    My suggestion would be...you all need a break from sciforums..for at least a month. When you're stuck in just one place..you lose perspective. Get some fresh air...

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    Other than that, as StrawDog hinted...I think..or at least I like to hope that people on here are mature enough to just ignore the topics/users they don't like. At least..I hope that some will some day find this particular "light".

    No..don't take offence at that. :m:
     
  22. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    Normally such posters are easily ignored but this one is so prolific that she's practically a spammer. We like the topics, not the spam. The spam is not rational, either. They are usually just questions in response to points. We have a word for that: "redirect."
     
  23. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    I don't really see the problem. The Palestine/Israel topic doesn't seem to be just a favourite in S.A.M.'s agenda, but also in the agendas of a lot of other users who seem to be just waiting for an other thread of the like to pop up somewhere. Make a thread about this subject and you can be sure that it's going to have more than 5 pages in an hour. Make a thread about EU and lightbulbs and you can be sure..it's going to stay dead, and get lost in the abyss of this forum. Lol...I'm really a bad topic creator. :bawl:

    People just seem to love to discuss Palestine/Israel, Jews, Muslims, Oil, Middle East, West, etc. to death. It's like..the whole world is revolving just around those f*cking terms.
     
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