jesse ventura

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  1. sifreak21 Valued Senior Member

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    Ok , he may run for 16 Pontus. And I don't think anyone can argue he makes some great points. Question is do you think a 3 party president will ever be a possible. And with all the corruption and the shutdowns that were intentional to promote x party everyone is pretty fed up with with the 2 parties
     
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  3. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    Ok what now? I hit my head I guess I don't fully understand. Your title got me here and your comment lost me. If your asking would jesse v make a good president I would say maybe. But he's been out of politics for a while I think. If you think some other ?named party would get in I think not my opinion is that the repubs or dems get most electections for potus. Tea Party is got some "Seats" but mainly indipendents and tea party people and such get on the main tickets maybe fraggle rocker could weigh in he has more info on these such issues imo...
     
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  5. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    Another party couldn't get in because the electoral college wouldn't recognize them and they would not give them their approval.
     
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  7. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The Tea Party is not a Party. It is a label for a faction of the Republican Party. All Tea Party Presidential candidates, people such as Palin or Bachmann or Cruz, would be running as Republicans, because that's the Party they belong to.

    Ventura is unlikely to run as a Republican, and unlikely to get anywhere near the actual Presidency - but there are other reasons to run, and as a candidate he could have an important role in the campaigns.

    One of the major factors in the upcoming US political scene is the extraordinary level of ignorance, part willful and part endemic, of the dominant faction of the right wing of the voting public. They've been getting all their "information" from the Murdoch, Ailes, Limbaugh, "conservative" Fox fountain of slaphead bs for almost a full generation now.
     
  8. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    Electoral college votes for people not parties. In recent years there have been several candidates from other parties receiving electoral votes - latest was George Wallace.
     
  9. sifreak21 Valued Senior Member

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    Simplified how viable is non partisan Potus. If he runs I would probably vote for him..
    If not it really saddens me that you can't run unless your partisan
     
  10. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    This is not exactly true, which is why both democrats and establishment republicans fear and try to undermine the Tea Party. If you recall, before the launch of Obama Care, but during the government shut down, the establishment Republicans were distancing themselves from Crus and the Tea Party. The Tea Party has and will run candidates against republican incumbents if they are not doing a good job for the people. This is a third party, but is farther from the tax, spend and regulate democrats, than it is from the republicans, since republican is about self reliance and a free economy and not dependency and big government.

    What is unique about the tea Party, which the propaganda may not tell you, there is no leader or power structure. It is a democracy where all have a say, without a propaganda machine from the top. This makes it harder for both establishment parties to attack and mud sling it from the top. If Mr X was the leader they would lie to create a scandal but there is no Mr X. It is composed of independent charters each composed of individuals. They need to demonize everyone which is not in touch with reality thereby exposing scam to half intelligent people.

    Gov Walker of Wisconsin applied the Tea Party Principles to his state. The democrats spent tons go money demonizing him. Did you hear that he now has nearly a $billion revenue surplus in his state, which he is going to give back as a tax cut. Education has gotten better with test score going up, while unemployment is in the 6%. These are very competent people, feared by both parties.
     
  11. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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  12. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Incorrect - you've completely forgotten Ralph Nadar who got some Electoral votes.
     
  13. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Who cares if you get 5 votes? You need the majority. And even getting 200 doesn't mean a thing, it isn't like your party get more seats or something...
     
  14. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The Tea Party has never run a Tea Party endorsed candidate. That's because it isn't a Party, and there is no endorsement mechanism for it. When the self-described "Tea Party" folks challenge a Republican incumbent they do so in the Republican Party primary, as Republicans, because they are Republicans seeking the Republican Party endorsement. If they lose but decide to run in an election without Republican endorsement, they run as "Independent" or the like.

    There is no political Party called the Tea Party. It does not exist.

    That's because it's not a Party. The Republican Party - which is the Party to which all "Tea Party" politicians belong - has a very rigid hierarchy and power structure, with defined and elected leaders and an almost startling organizational unity (look at the vote patterns in Congress, the hundreds of filibusters in the Senate since the black guy took the White House).

    Occupy Wall Street would be an example of a political group or body with little in the way of leaders or power structure.

    Now Jesse Ventura was an actual third Party candidate when he ran for Governor of Minnesota. That Party exists to this day, and is running candidates in the upcoming elections. Despite being home to the founder of the Tea Party caucus in the House, and a place known for side Parties and unusual coalitions, no Party called the Tea Party will be fielding a single candidate in Minnesota. That's because there is no such Party here. They're all Republicans.
     

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