Jesus will come

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  1. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Could you elaborate on that?
    What is your argument?
    Possibly that the end of the world is repeatedly predicted.
    You have shown that, but perhaps you had some other point.
     
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  3. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    No man knows the time Jesus will return, but a woman might occasionally be right.
     
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  5. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    You would be surprised how much people don't think about dying. You should try it, you would possibly not need that extra hope of eternal life to get you through the day.
     
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  7. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, that's right. "Waiting to die" would apply to the terminally ill patient who suffers excruciating pain, and a few other categories of despair.

    Everyone else? Irrelevant.
     
  8. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Exception: some unreasonable belief must always be circumvented.

    Examples:

    -The patient who is denied or refuses a blood transfusion on account of faith and belief.

    -The suicidal or homicidal persona that is experiencing religious delusions

    -Cult practices involving rape, torture, or murder that purport to be religions

    -Militancy in all its variations within the context of religion

    And these are just imperatives. There remain a whole slew of philosophical positions in which the rational can not tolerate the irrational, whether faith-based or not.
     
  9. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    u r silly again,
    death does not fear christians,
    we live positively,
    and die with hope, real hope.
    we have testimony that Jesus is true.
     
  10. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    So what?
    It's not reliable or even verifiable testimony.
     
  11. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    So, this is from a blog, but I've read the writings of a few other scholars of the subject...

    http://jewishatheist.blogspot.com/2008/05/repost-ancient-judaism-was-polytheistic.html
    I strongly urge you to follow the above link...there you will find out about the Ugaritic texts and the polytheism of Ugarit, from which the Jewish monotheism seems to have come.

    My own observation...is that many of the OT injunctions are to differentiate the Hebrews from those around them who would have been pretty much genetically identical.

    Jesus will come? if/when he does, Saint, you're going to have some explaining to do about that hooker you visit...

    http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=106708&highlight=prostitute
     
  12. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Most non-christians don't fear death either.

    Sacraficing truth for how you feel is a pretty shitty way to go.

    Which is just as meaningless as any other religious testimony.
     
  13. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    Wait a shotgun cocking second, are we really doing this. Another doomsday prediction? Really? Given that every single doomsday prophecy ever has turned out to be wrong(even the words of Jesus were wrong) are we really going to take this shit seriously?
     
  14. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    Have you read mine Arioch? Take note!

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    Sorry that was the Doomsday prophecy on another thread, sorry.
     
  15. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    If we are lucky, we die with a bottle of tequila in our bloodstream, and/or a double dose of morphine.

    Yes there's hope indeed...in medicinal salvation at the end of days.

    Oh so you mean the oldest known full codex to substantiate the authenticity of modern versions...comes with a little note more or less invalidating the premise, raised in fundamentalism, that the religion is itself pure and handed down directly from God? Oh! Not the Ugarits! -- worshippers of Baal! --

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    (I would just say OMG, but now that's been rendered irrelevant)

    OH MY BAAL!

    BUS-TED!
    First you take my god, then you take my saint...what next Chimpkin?

    Maybe a half-second... the affirmative side is only half-cocked.
     
  16. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    As we grow older, and start to experience the reality of death, through the death of others (parents, friends, collegues, celebrities...), we do start to realise that death is some real shit, and to a person of 50 or so, it is not that far away. Especially when you consider the last 30 years went by really quickly.


    jan.
     
  17. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    It took you to midlife to figure this out?

    Last spring I was driving to work, doing my usual way-over the speed limit, and a flying piece of metal, kicked up by a semi, smacked into the windshield right in front of my face.

    Because it landed sideways, it did not come through my windshield at 75 miles an hour. Had it done it might have killed me. Dead of a freak accident.
    Surprise! I would have looked really weird, sitting there dead in my car with that metal sticking out of my eyesocket or something.
    (I suspect I'd just have had to have driven to the hospital-ambulance rides are pricey- and then had another scar.)

    Life is passing by faster though.

    Really? Um, ok, just me then. :shrug:
     
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  18. Saturnine Pariah Hell is other people Valued Senior Member

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    My point is that idiots like Saint have been trying to predict the end of the world for a very long time and they have always been dead wrong. Oh i'm sorry did i say idiots i ment to say christians

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  19. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    This post is remarkable for its humanity.
     
  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Yes they are.
     
  21. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    you can choose to die without Jesus,
    if life is like a candle and burns off its materials and ceases to exist, then everyone has the same fate, but if there is after life as pronounced by bible, the heathens will head towards Hell and die in regret.
    But Christians will enjoy eternal peace in God.
     
  22. wlminex Banned Banned

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    (humor here-->) "I'm so old . . . I don't even buy green bananas anymore! . . .
     
  23. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    (1) Judge not lest ye be judged.
    (2) Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
    (3) For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

    etc.

    So how did you get elected to proclaim the fate of others?
     

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