Kirlian Effect

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  1. Reiku Banned Banned

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    This is about the phenomena of aurora and biofields.

    I'll keep this very short.


    Dr. Kirlian found that organisms, indeed even plant life have aura's around there structure, shown in oscillating colors by applying them to an alternating electromagnetic field. Not only that, but the aura can be found as slowly dissipating even after the removal of limbs or even cutting the leaf in half: The result would be to put the deformed organism under the resonator and it would show ''phantom'' parts.

    Is this aura the essence of living matter?

    The answer would seem to be ''yes''.

    Then what is this aura in respect to living matter? Is it itself an electromagnetic field?

    I've done a lot of work on biofields now, and i'm convinced such effects can prove the soul and other phenomena, just like aura's, which are themselves ''on the mystical woo woo'' of psychophysics.

    What do you think it all is?
     
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  3. Non-Logical-Idea-Guy Fat people can't smile. Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not a trained scientist and I have no idea, but it sounds absolutely fascinating.
     
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  5. Non-Logical-Idea-Guy Fat people can't smile. Registered Senior Member

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    so when they sever parts of living organisms, they can still be seen under a resonator? looking a bit like a hologram type thing?
     
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  7. Kovak Registered Senior Member

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    The ex Soviet state invested many years in the research anddevelopment of of Kirilian photography,I myself have had my Aura analyzed via finger tip readings using latest Camera 2006.Very interesting results & used as a diagnostic tool for preventative medicine in Russia since around 2000.This is its current practical use to the masses so to speak, however if you have any current research or links much appreciated.
     
  8. Non-Logical-Idea-Guy Fat people can't smile. Registered Senior Member

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    welcome to sciforums mr . 1 post ;D
     
  9. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    I think if you apply an alternating magnetic field to an object you should not be too surprised if you are able to detect an induced alternating electromagnetic field.
     
  10. Reiku Banned Banned

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    Thank you for showing interest everyone.

    I have a dream. Instead of the conventional ETE with EFT's, with everything being traced back to Gravity, i think it is actually the electromagnetic.

    I had a debate with a string theorist, and only to what i had expected, he replied by saying that the electromagnetic force is well worked with, and its strength is known...

    But this doesn't add up for me, for one simple reason. Use the same arguement, and instead, say it for gravity, and it makes absolute no sense.

    ''The Gravitational force is well-worked with, and its strength is known.''

    Except for three fundamental errors:

    1. The graviton has not been detected.

    2. That gravity is very very weak, and we only have theories on its ultimate strength.

    3. And that it isn't well-known at all. It is known through GR, which is totally incomplete, and possibly incorrect.

    If everything is traced back to Gravitation, then we [SHOULD] find that gravity is quite strong at 1TeV, the same value for the production of the Higgs Boson.

    If Gravity is found strong at this level, i'll be proven wrong, because then theory is predicting gravity, though, if it is found to be very weak still, i think something else is behind our designs, and it isn't gravity... First i would then need to ask... what the hell is gravity then?

    I'm going to start a different thread on the debate of strengths. But continue please ya'll who want to talk about electromagnetic biofields.
     
  11. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    When they examined rocks with Kirlian photography they too gave off an

    aura. It seems that anything that was warm or hot gave off auras so I don't

    think that this statement is correct.
     
  12. Non-Logical-Idea-Guy Fat people can't smile. Registered Senior Member

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    maybe rocks are living, just not by are "MRS GREN!!!! XD XD XD" standards of what constitutes a living organism
     
  13. Reiku Banned Banned

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    I postulated in a book i recently wrote called ''Superdimension,'' that biofields might come in a potential and real form, much like gravity. The potential conscious biofield would act like the wave function, and peak at certain frequencies determining the reality of having life in a system.

    This potential force would even be found in rocks.

    The real force is found in real living matter.

    Your idea was actually well-respected with me.
     
  14. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    The magnetic properties of "aura" can easily be felt and seen with practice. It's a combo of relaxing the eyes and body. The trick is to know what you're looking for and then keeping your brain from blocking it out.

    Very real, and well within reach but trying to rationalize it can be an obstruction.
     
  15. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    The "aura" has been shown to be only the heat given off by your own body.

    Kirlian photography sees only certain wavelengths and those of are heat.
     
  16. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    I can only speak from my own experience.
     
  17. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    So you "see" your own bodies heat?
     
  18. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think it's heat. I don't think we have a name for it.
     
  19. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    The auras captured by his photography are those of the bodies own heat,

    that's what its called.
     
  20. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. He's a quack. IMO.
    Or maybe you can't prove something of the spirit by using science.
     
  21. Reiku Banned Banned

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    You are all quacks really

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  22. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    From my understanding Energy isn't Heat, Heat is a reaction.
     
  23. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    But why does the signature persist after you cut something off? I assume it has to be a hoax.
     

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