Lambert-Charlier Hierarchical Cosmology

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  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    We don't know why spacetime expands.
    But observational evidence supports that model.
    There are lots of things we don't know.
    We don't know why gravity behaves the way it does, or why it exists, or how it exists, but we do know it exists, don't we?
    We have measured the curvature of spacetime caused by the Earth, and it aligns exactly with what Einstein's GR tells us.
    We have measured the "Lense Thirring"effect caused by the Earth spinning, and guess what? It also aligns with what Einstein's GR tells us.
    Einstein and GR, or the BB tell us nothing about any mythical God or spaghetti monster.
    The standard cosmological model, including the BB is well evidenced and supported.
    And it will remain that way until someone [perhaps you] can show some evidence to support this God, or even your spaghetti monster.
    Hope you find him.
     
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  3. PhysBang Valued Senior Member

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    Have you ever read a textbook on relativity theory?
     
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  5. JukriS Registered Senior Member

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    i hope, you understund, i dont believe any kind of gods, not spaghetmonster or curving space!

    Curving space is crap with good mathematics!

    Curving space is crap for me, at least until you can show me your god, curving space!

    Photons are real thing!

    I think photons expanding and recycling expanding movement and if it that way, we can explain bending light and old light redshifting with out yours gods, you know!

    There is no any reason why i ost to believe expanding space and curving space exist!

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    Gluons are the emperor naked



    There is no any kind of pulling force!

    Pulling force is not logical force!

    We can explain recycling just with pushing force!

    We know, there is movement!

    Movement = Pushing force

    Eternal movement

    Eternal Recycling

    Eternal Pushing

    All visible universe densers expanding and recycling expanding movement all a time!

    If it that way, we dont need expanding space or curving space or pulling force!

    I can explain why and how expanding densers expanding and how and why expanding densers recycling expanding movement just with pushing force!

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  8. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Ignoring evidence contrary to what you believe is dumb.
    But of course I await with anticipation for your model, and evidence to support it, and the proper pee review.
    I won't hold my breath though!
     
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    Can you?
    great, how long do I have to wait?
    And then how long for peer review?
    Do you know what "delusions of grandeur" is?
     
  10. JukriS Registered Senior Member

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    You cant prove with mathematics some thing what you take from hat!

    You post to can explain everything logical way and then you can using some good mathematic for that logical explanation!

    Let me try first!

    Lets think about that way.

    We have a expanding denser which have a inside movement / energy / pushing force and with that pushing force that expanding denser can slow down some expanding movement from outside and thats the way it get all a time more and more expanding movement / energy which is pushing force!

    Also same time some expanding movement / energy pushing out from expanding denser and that expanding movement is also pushing force and with that pushing force expanding densers can pushing each other same way what expanding densers expanding!

    Very easy and logical way to explain everything with out some thing what you cant understund, like expanding space and curving space / pulling force!

    Okay, now we have something logical, you know!

    We know, there is movement and we know movement is always pushing force!

    Now we just need good mathemtaics for that logical idea, you know!

    Now you have a the opportunity to be the new Newton!

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  11. JukriS Registered Senior Member

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    We can make a science test with expanding light and that why we can prove, photons expanding and recycling expanding movement all a time!

    Stephen Hawking dont understund! / Onesimpleprinciple



    Science people believe, there is curved space.

    They told, because light bending when is moving near star or galaxy, it is prove, space curving.

    It is funny, because if i say, light bending, because there is monster of spaghet and if science people ask me, how i can prove, there is spaghetmonster, i can prove monster of spaghet same way, how they prove, there is curved space, is just say, because light bending, it prove, there is spaghetmonster.

    What about if quarks expanding and recycling expanding movement / energy and also photons expanding and recycling expanding movement / enerrgy?

    This is something what we can prove!

    We can make test for light!

    We already, there is photons!

    maybe photons expanding and recycling expanding movement / energy!

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    hmmmmm, maybe

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    Great Idea!!!!!

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    You are going to get your theory peer reviewed, aren't you?

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    You say, there is dark energy which get the expanding space expanding faster and faster!

    what is that dark energy and it interactive with expanding space?

    what happeningvgor expandibg space whennit expanding?

    i can explain where all behind energy / movement coming from and because movement is pudhing force, we can explain why and how expanding densers expanding faster and faster!

    and of course, we can also explain why and how expanding denser get the outdide movement / energy all a time more and more!

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    Sorry, i cant edit my text!

    what is dark energy and HOW dark energy interactive with expanding space and getvthe expanding space expanding faster?

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    Man is not dark energy, but man can get the nucleus bomb material expanding faster what nucleus bomb expanding before visible expanding!

    Man cant get the expanding space expanding faster!

    Man cant make any test with expanding space!

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  18. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    No, I do not say that. WMAP and the data it received said that


    We do not know. My guess is Einstein's CC, and associated with whatever impetus that made the BB and spacetime to start expanding and whatever caused the Inflationary epoch.
    But I'm only guessing and am only a layman like yourself.


    We do not know. Our models fail at 10-43 seconds after t=0 [the BB]


    Bullshit, unmitigated bullshit.
    But just on the off chance I am wrong, and you do have something, then get it peer reviewed.



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    Man could not fly 150 years ago.....
    Man could not flick a switch to create light from darkness 300 years ago......
    Man in Australia could not converse with man in Europe, USA, Britain 250 years ago.....
    Man could not walk on the Moon a 100 years ago......
     
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    Do you reallu think, man can later make science test with expanding space?

    Same kind of science test what msn can di with atoms and with photons?

    i just wonder, how?

    can you even tell me something about that expanding space?

    what a ---- is expanding space?

    I know, that the material / substance can change, because protons and neutrons moving "in" space which is nothing, but how expanding space expanding?

    How space can changing at all?

    if space change, how that happening?

    How you try to mske science test for or with expanding space?

    we can smash particle with LHC!

    can you smash expanding space with expanding space?

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    have you any test already?

    No you dont have!

    Have any idea already?

    No you dont have!

    Maybe you take dark energy and push expanding space some direction and then you take some other expanding space and push that one other direction and watch what happening?

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    We have evidence of spacetime expansion over large scales.
    That spacetime expansion is nullified over smaller solar system/galactic scales
    The CMBR is evidence of that.
    If you have anything to show to the contrary, then present it and stop your bullshit.
    Then get it peer reviewed.
    But you won't do that, will you?

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    At least you are in the right section, that's all you have going for you.
     
  23. JukriS Registered Senior Member

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    We have evidence for expanding information!

    We already see, old informationnis expanding / redshifted!

    OLD information is not from expanding space!

    it is from expandibg concentrations!

    You have not any informaion from expandins space!

    Expandins space dont emit any information!

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