life: purposed to continue

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Bishadi, Mar 25, 2009.

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  3. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    Life: path you walk till you reach its end; death.
     
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    i rather enjoyed that post myself

    reminded me of a line from National Treasure:

    "people don't talk that way"......... anymore (being honest and from the heart)
     
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  7. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    That is a non-sensical statement Bishadi.

    I have never knocked it as being totally wrong, i just don't believe that evolution goes that far.
    Some religions are totally wrong, IMO, so say what you have to say with
    adequate explanation.

    The thing is, if you don't accept ToE, those that do find it perfectly acceptable, to insult the very shite out of you. It has been intellectually allowed. I can only hope president Obama is not of this belief.

    Life has purpose, there is no doubt. But with this belief life does not have purpose. If it did, it throws the belief into doubt.

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  8. Bishadi Banned Banned

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    it means must of the sciences to make your computer, is using scientific 'theories' to build
    well in Gen 3:22 And Jehovah God saith, `Lo, the man was as one of Us, as to the knowledge of good and evil; and now, lest he send forth his hand, and have taken also of the tree of life, and eaten, and lived to the age,' --


    The bible says, we like gods, how much further can anyone Go?

    At least, i can say, we live within existence (God himself) and will always be submitting to nature, as the over-all boss.

    Bible says all kinds of contradictory stuff and not because of God(s) but because of the inconsistancies of the worlds knowledge (mankind).

    That what many are led to believe is quite different than what the texts share as well what is literally true.

    The Theory of Everything (ToE) is the same as holding a bible and saying 'here is God"

    That is what they did in the old days, almost verbatim, during the inquisitions. And to even possess material knowledge and not be a preacher or of proper birth, you would be killed/tortured.

    What insults me, is not that people accept or don't accept, but that when someone chooses to lie over being honest. (that's where irresponsibility, selfishness and corruption show up as my enemy)

    are you suggesting that pursuing knowledge should stop at the hands of religious beliefs being the last word?

    Oh my!

    I often say, if the religious corruption was not so bad over the course of history, we would all be vacationing on the moon by now.

    beliefs are for the accepting (willing to stop with the complacent knowledge as the last word)

    Overall, truth is what lives

    if each was truly aware that their choices are what governs their 'ever-lasting' and that truth be grounded to reality; then equality, compassion and world peace could exist.

    if that means the religious beliefs will be over across the board; then so be it

    i stand for truth (all cases)
     
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    Not superstition. Fact. The purpose of life is to get action.
     
  10. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    You're confusing "purpose" with "attribute" the way Bishadi does.
     
  11. Cortex_Colossum Banned Banned

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    Do we not have a need for kindred selves?
     
  12. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Bishadi,

    By ToE I meant "theory of evolution"

    God isn't contradictory.
    Upon reading other scriptures, and gaining more understanding of the nature of God, not even the bible is contradictory. The unfortunate thing with the bible is that it has been mis-managed, and mis-interpreted.

    I think I agree, but am not sure.
    What country are you from Bishadi?

    Is "The Theory of Everything" the same as the theory of evolution, or is it
    a something different??

    I sincerely hope this behaviour is not going to be repeated.

    hear hear.

    Of course not.
    I find it disconcerting when the notion of ridicule those that don't believe what you believe, on that basis, intellectualy acceptable.
    It says alot about the current state of humanity, and sends a cold chill down my spine.
    I guess I shouldn't be surprised, as all this has already been foretold (scriptures), but no amount of reading can fare with experience. I suppose that is the real lesson to be learned.

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    The prohibition of science had nothing to do with real religion.
    The word "religion" comes from the latin root re-ligare which means
    to bind again with God. This is the sole purpose of religion, anything else is irreligion. With real religion there is an understanding that knowledge is the key to growth. Just take a look at the great things that have been acheived through religion, and how it has enriched the world.

    Bishadi, you are just spouting rhetoric without stopping to think.

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    Everybody believes in something. The only alternative to belief is knowing.
    And to know something, one must have a belief in something.

    jan.
     
  13. Bishadi Banned Banned

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    "everybody wants some, i want some too......."
     
  14. Bishadi Banned Banned

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    you can't ask him that as you first need to know what magazine he is holding.
     
  15. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Nonsense.
    There is no ToE.
     
  16. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    WE as humans may have.
    Does a sponge?
    Does a dandelion?
     
  17. Cortex_Colossum Banned Banned

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    Far from it.
     
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    awwww...... you still 'believe' it is a theory.

    ooops! I liken the ToE to the big one; theory of everything

    sorry.... my mind is often at the planck scale

    I agree, i Love the garden and say thanks, all day long!

    the bible (which ever version) are simply opinions of that nature. Good stuff in many ways be certain of that but still stating, within, that more is to come.

    eg... returning 'christ'

    So Cal Beach bum; hangin' 10.

    (Sorry, but i Love life, so my sense of humor may be whacked to some.)

    my point was that certain points in history share that belief systems often create the worst oppression; and that innert pursuit of knowledge can be damaged by keeping precepts. eg.... you are learning everyday, and that is a fact; your knowledge is evolving, nothing theoretical about it.

    so from giggling to being practically too direct

    perhaps i should put on a seat belt

    "hear hear."....... glad you like honesty
    Good, because to me giving of time for the truth and understanding, for the future, is contributing to/for God. IMO
    such then as time progresses, we are learning more (of God/nature/existence) and to be honest, then we can learn and evolve, just as nature (God) shows is the true course. (IMO)

    I agree, but please look at history. It wasn't but a few years ago, that you would even be allowed to voice that opinion.

    And in some places right now on this earth, you and i could not be having this conversation.

    But of choice, 'we' can because of the right environment!

    seems to me, by watching the news and seeing what is occuring across the lake; the start of wwIII will be because of a belief conflict

    so while the religious are chasing God, the sciences are chasing the buck (invisible hand/ Adam smith)

    and the world is about to fall apart in more ways than one

    and that is what understanding life, enables

    all the religions were ever for, was to offer purpose and understanding to life

    the people are who put the fear of god into them

    heck the original flood story, suggesting god was mad at mankind for the evil the devil corrupted man to do; may have actually been based from the God Enil, who was pissed at mankind for being to 'noisy'

    http://www.earth-history.com/Sumer/Clay-tablets.htm


    that mankind is capable (even per Gen 3:22 (in the beginning)

    The boss enabled choice for mankind, and i made mine! Do 'good'............. (support life to continue)

    please do not make this thread an item suggesting a debate against God; i contest the old believers, preachers and teachers; i contest the corruption of some of mankinds choices that led to the creation of beliefs to be adhered over the continuous pursuit of knowledge and truth.

    Heck i contest the second law of thermodynamics and that gets a reaction from the scientific community with more fearocity, then saying i don't believe God is sitting on a thrown.

    No one wants to play with me!
     
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  19. Cortex_Colossum Banned Banned

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    Absolutely.
     
  20. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Evidence?
     
  21. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    There is a ToE, but there is no Spoon.
     
  22. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    ToE Theory of Everything?

    No spoon?
    Then how did we get the concept of soup?
     
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    Spoon as in matrix reference.
     
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