logically, nothing should exist

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Norsefire, Aug 21, 2007.

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  1. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    so, put 2 and 2 together and you get the answer. so if something does exist it means something always existed. or there would be nothing.


    peace.
     
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  3. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    something can be created out of nothing...e=mc^
     
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  5. Yonescoh Registered Member

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    That requires mass...
     
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  7. yahooian Registered Member

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    Nothingness is non-existence; nothingness is
    non-relational. Nothingness has no distinctiveness in and of itself,
    hence nothingness cannot be recognizable.

    Nothingness is not a concept because a concept exists; "nothingess" is non-existant.

    In terms of categorical generalization, the general contains the specific in a set inclusive relationship - moving towards higher levels of generalization and abstraction as the perceptual differences dissolve with the higher levels of meta-syntax.

    Theoretically speaking, at the highest set of all possible sets level, nothing exists in and of itself...

    Since the one totality of existence has no outside frame of reference, it can only be defined in terms of intrinsic relationships.
     
  8. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    All I need is common sense.. it isn't that hard really. But thanks anyway..

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    But if you can explain to me why "time has, by definition, always been" is a false statement, be my guest.
     
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  10. granpa Registered Senior Member

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    nothing cant be a type of thing



    you bring up an interesting point. people are calling 'nothing' a 'thing'. but nothing cant be a type of thing because it is no-thing. it can only be an idea.
     
  11. spuddiver Registered Member

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    No Answer!

    Everybody keeps just saying the easy answer of everything has always existed, its so we can carry on happy that we have a sort of answer. Il admit it seems tempting and nice to beleive that.

    The more i think about it, my mind wont except this. I dont think we should take this answer, it stops us pondering what could be the real question. Why?

    None of this should have ever happened!!
     
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    Mod Hat,

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