Luminiferous Aether Exists!

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  1. gravitational_aether Banned Banned

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    Do you understand particles of matter exist out ahead of the solar system in quantities less than in any vacuum artificially created on Earth?

    To think it is the particles which wave is absurd.

    It is the aether which waves out ahead of the solar system.
     
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  3. brucep Valued Senior Member

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    Sounded like the stuff that's highly flammable and not to good for breathing. Writing some fun posts at the expense of the dunce stool candidate gravitational_dummy.
     
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  5. gravitational_aether Banned Banned

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    So, you can't explain why the 'dark matter' is being left behind when galaxy clusters collide.

    'Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image'
    http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html

    "This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected into a "dark core," containing far fewer galaxies than would be expected if the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most of the galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision. "This result is a puzzle," said astronomer James Jee of the University of California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results available online in The Astrophysical Journal. "Dark matter is not behaving as predicted, and it's not obviously clear what is going on. It is difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current theories of galaxy formation and dark matter.""

    The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core is not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It is obviously clear what is going on.

    There is nothing to 'leave behind'. Non-baryonic dark matter was never anchored to the matter in the first place. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.
     
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  7. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    And again, just a cut and paste of the same post that's been used at least a couple of dozen times.
     
  8. gravitational_aether Banned Banned

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    So, you can't explain why the 'dark matter' is being left behind when galaxy clusters collide.

    'Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image'
    http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html

    "This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected into a "dark core," containing far fewer galaxies than would be expected if the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most of the galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision. "This result is a puzzle," said astronomer James Jee of the University of California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results available online in The Astrophysical Journal. "Dark matter is not behaving as predicted, and it's not obviously clear what is going on. It is difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current theories of galaxy formation and dark matter.""

    The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core is not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It is obviously clear what is going on.

    There is nothing to 'leave behind'. Non-baryonic dark matter was never anchored to the matter in the first place. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.
     
  9. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    And the same post again.

    The mods obviously don't give a crap.
     
  10. gravitational_aether Banned Banned

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    So, you can't explain why the 'dark matter' is being left behind when galaxy clusters collide.

    'Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image'
    http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html

    "This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected into a "dark core," containing far fewer galaxies than would be expected if the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most of the galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision. "This result is a puzzle," said astronomer James Jee of the University of California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results available online in The Astrophysical Journal. "Dark matter is not behaving as predicted, and it's not obviously clear what is going on. It is difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current theories of galaxy formation and dark matter.""

    The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core is not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It is obviously clear what is going on.

    There is nothing to 'leave behind'. Non-baryonic dark matter was never anchored to the matter in the first place. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.
     
  11. Prof.Layman totally internally reflected Registered Senior Member

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    It is impossible to create a true vacuum. The container would always be attached to something that is giving off heat, so then energy will always get inside the vacuum. Then there is particle pair creation and annhiliation. Particles will come into existance breifly and annihilate each other. I think there is supposed to about one atom per cubic foot or meter. I haven't read up on astronomey as much as other types of theoretical physics.

    I don't think anyone has found any waves without particles, that is the whole problem and why your idea of aether dispacement is absurd.

    Did you wave back? There is nothing to 'leave behind'. Non-baryonic dark matter was never anchored to the matter in the first place. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether. According to you, matter moves through and displaces the aether, not the solar system. See a problem here?
     
  12. gravitational_aether Banned Banned

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    The notion it is particles of matter which are out ahead of our solar system are what are waving is absurd nonsense. The notion it is particles of matter which exist in the interstellar medium which are causing the magnetic field to pile-up is absurd nonsense.

    It is the aether which waves out ahead of the solar system. It is the aether which is the interstellar medium which is pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.

    The solar system consists of matter. The solar system moves through and displaces the aether. The solar system moving through and displacing the aether causes the aether to wave.
     
  13. Prof.Layman totally internally reflected Registered Senior Member

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    So then if it is not particles of matter that is causing the solar system to create a wave, then wouldn't also saying that matter causing the wave because of an aether also be absurd nonsense? Most of the matter in the solar system is tied up into balls called planets and the Sun. If it was the matter alone in the solar system then the bow wave would be largest right next to our Sun. But, it isn't, it is outside of the solar system!
     
  14. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    you really should stop with the rpetative posts, it is both annoying and by definition trolling.
     
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    So, you can't explain why the 'dark matter' is being left behind when galaxy clusters collide.

    'Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image'
    http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html

    "This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected into a "dark core," containing far fewer galaxies than would be expected if the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most of the galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision. "This result is a puzzle," said astronomer James Jee of the University of California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results available online in The Astrophysical Journal. "Dark matter is not behaving as predicted, and it's not obviously clear what is going on. It is difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current theories of galaxy formation and dark matter.""

    The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core is not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It is obviously clear what is going on.

    There is nothing to 'leave behind'. Non-baryonic dark matter was never anchored to the matter in the first place. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.
     
  17. Prof.Layman totally internally reflected Registered Senior Member

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    So then where are the bow waves around the Sun and planets in these pictures?
     
  18. gravitational_aether Banned Banned

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    My guess is no. My guess is the Sun and the planets are in balance with the state of the displaced aether which surrounds them. I think the wave it outside of the overall sate of the displaced aether.

    The following is an image of the state of displacement of the aether surrounding the Milky Way. It is in the shape of a squished beach ball. I think it likely there is a bow wave outside of this region.

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  19. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Flags wave. People wave. But aether doesn't wave, except in your mind, where all the aether is. Waves in physics are nouns. The verb is propagate. They subtend space with energy. (Remember energy? You keep leaving it out, as if we're supposed to believe aether makes up for the deficit.) But waves propagate for the same reason fields propagate. And that reason is: they propagate without cause.

    This gets to what "cause" means, but I'm only relating it in the context you're using, which is mechanics. (Your allusion to pressure, for example, while repudiating the Lorentz force which deflects a magnetic field when traversed by a charged particle). You want the universe to be made of dominoes of causation that topple one another ... from ... what? a Prime Mover?

    ... Energy (in this context) propagates, which is not mechanics. It's electromagnetics. Particles translate, which is mechanics. And this is why you can't connect the two. You have no perspective of EM at all. Energy is conserved, so the energy invested in accelerating a charged particle to a given velocity is equal to the radiant energy of its induced field.

    Notice how this has nothing at all to do with aether?

    When you say "physical" you evidently mean "mechanical". You seek a mechanical wave (as in acoustics), which is perhaps the basis of Newton's universe, but not Maxwell's. This was the same problematics with aether during that era that spanned their discoveries. They didn't yet have a sense of EM, so they kept searching for a nonexistent mechanical system--a medium. That's the same rationalizing that has you chasing "pressure", "displacement", "collision" (of clusters), "pushing" (of the heliosphere by radiant particles), and, of course, "waving"--and the mechanical interpretation of the double slit experiment, and even of gravity itself. These are all mechanical world views, narrow and highly oversimplified models obsoleted by EM.

    The mechanical cause is far removed from the electromagnetic one. Mechanics (kinematics) invokes your personal sense of causality, because there is motion. There is before and after. The world of kinematics is one of space cut by time. Almost all the laws of mechanics derive from pinning mass to the space of this world, cut by time. (esp. the first and second derivatives). We don't generally think of dimensions as derivatives, but in this sense, the sense of "dimensions of existence", that's just about all we need to describe the mechanical world. (This, presumably, is your "physical" world.)

    EM is another world. The object pinned to this world is not mass but charge. Added to the dimensionality of time-derivatives we find a special "dimension of existence" for the zeroth order case: electrostatics. Here is the magical property you seek through the nonsense of filling space with a superfluid. Electrostatics is the world of pure propagation. Before you can pretend to repeal Maxwell's laws and to replace them with "waving" mechanical aether, you have to answer Coulomb's Law, as a clue to what "causes" phenomena that you incorrectly interpret from the distorted lens of a mechanic.

    In Coulomb's law, which is a dual for Newton's law of gravitation, there is no mechanical cause. The charge is ever-present. In Newton's Law, the mass is ever-present. "Ever-present" is, in the sense you mean it, "without cause." This why, when scientists and engineers tell you that the electrostatic force arises from the charges and distance between them, and that gravity arises from the masses and the distance between them, you simply scoff and post obnoxious and repetitive posts. You are seeking a cause in the mechanical sense. You want before and after.

    What they are telling you, that you are completely shutting out, is that fields are persistent. A term you should learn is "attend". A moving charge is attended by a magnetic field. A static charge is attended by a static electric field. Mass is attended by a gravitational field. It's not a question of cause, as you think. It's a fact of simultaneity. To persist, to attend, simply means to exist conditionally, but not simply on account of cause.

    That's putting the round peg of electromagnetics into the square hole of mechanics, the whole basis of your spurious beliefs.
     
  20. gravitational_aether Banned Banned

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    "In several parts of this treatise an attempt has been made to explain electromagnetic phenomena by means of mechanical action transmitted from one body to another by means of a medium occupying the space between them. The undulatory theory of light also assumes the existence of a medium. We have now to shew that the properties of the electromagnetic medium are identical with those of the luminiferous medium." - Maxwell

    Maxwell's displacement current is a physical displacement of the aether.

    "Doth not this aethereal medium in passing out of water, glass, crystal, and other compact and dense bodies in empty spaces, grow denser and denser by degrees, and by that means refract the rays of light not in a point, but by bending them gradually in curve lines? ...Is not this medium much rarer within the dense bodies of the Sun, stars, planets and comets, than in the empty celestial space between them? And in passing from them to great distances, doth it not grow denser and denser perpetually, and thereby cause the gravity of those great bodies towards one another, and of their parts towards the bodies; every body endeavouring to go from the denser parts of the medium towards the rarer?" - Newton

    Newton is referring to the state of displacement of the aether.

    The aether does not grow denser and denser. The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid. However, Newton is correct, displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

    So, you can't explain what occurs physically in nature which causes you to remain on the surface of the Earth.

    Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.

    So, you can't explain why the 'dark matter' is being left behind when galaxy clusters collide.

    'Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image'
    http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html

    "This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected into a "dark core," containing far fewer galaxies than would be expected if the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most of the galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision. "This result is a puzzle," said astronomer James Jee of the University of California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results available online in The Astrophysical Journal. "Dark matter is not behaving as predicted, and it's not obviously clear what is going on. It is difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current theories of galaxy formation and dark matter.""

    The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core is not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It is obviously clear what is going on.

    There is nothing to 'leave behind'. Non-baryonic dark matter was never anchored to the matter in the first place. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.
     
  21. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    You actually belong in a psych thread, where the humiliation you suffered for failing science comes back to haunt you, in an obsession to troll a forum that's designed to let clowns sling hash.
     
  22. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Keep reading, and you'll get to the 20th century. Be sure to dwell on what Maxwell had to say about electromagnetics. Learn that, and we'll send you a gummed gold star to stick on your forehead.
     
  23. gravitational_aether Banned Banned

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    When you can explain what occurs physically in nature which is keeping you on the surface of the Earth, which intepretation of quantum mechanics correctly explains what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment or what occurs physically in nature to cause the 'dark matter' to be left behind when galaxy clusters collide then let me know.

    Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.

    A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

    Non-baryonic dark matter was never anchored to the matter in the first place. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.
     

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