Magic

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Michael 345, Apr 13, 2019.

  1. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Theist

    When you watch a entertainment magic show I am fairly sure you know that it is NOT real

    The MAGIC is the ability of the entertainer to seemingly defy the laws of physics, while you are watching, AND YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW THEY DO SO

    That is MAGIC and, repeating, you don't know how it is done but you DO know it is not real

    So don't you find it strange that you BELIEVE magic, WHICH YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN, but which you say your god performs?

    Performance magic = seen - don't know how he did it - but it is fake

    god magic = not seen - don't know how he did it - but it is real

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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Michael:

    You might be surprised, but there are people out there who think that some stage magic is actually real. The assumption appears to be that if they can't think how it could be done, it must be real magic.

    I think this is actually more common when the illusionist is performing "mental magic", rather than magic with physical objects. There are people who will insist that the performer could not possibly have done a "mind reading" trick without using real magic. Even when the performer tells them it is trickery (without saying exactly how it is done), they will still insist that the performer has real psychic powers (or whatever), but that the performer maybe doesn't realise that him/herself.

    People will go to great lengths to preserve a belief system.
     
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  5. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    You might be surprised I am not

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    Oh for a time machine to go back with a few magic performers to the time of JC and give the local con artist a run for their money

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  7. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    It's called a magic TRICK for a reason. The objective is to fool the observer. Magic isn't real.
     
  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    fyi, i dont think JC was a con artist.
    i think the con artists came after him and simply used him like one might use ghandi to deify someone to then subvert conformity to give power to an individual.
    look at hitler
    used socialism(and sold it wholesale) to gain fascist control
    look at Stalin, used communism to validate fascism
    etc etc ...

    i believe in magic

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    maybe the preceding question should be "does magic defy the unknown laws of physics?"
    i define magic as being unknown
    i define defying the laws of physics as something else
    i define defying unknown laws as being theory
    magic & theory are equal
    neither have scientific fact to define them
     
  9. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I have a magic card trick. Unless you think planting "thoughts" in peoples heads is scientific.
     
  10. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Tricky

    Because we don't know what we don't know, which would include the unknown laws of physics, we don't know if any magic defies any unknown law

    If we do find a previous unknown law of physics by definition it becomes a known law of physics

    If we have had something, which has previously been nominated as magic because it defied the then know laws, we now have, a new law, which we can make a check against

    I would ask, Did this new law come from re-evaluating the magic? or come from other research?

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  11. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I bet you don't talk to animals do you?
     
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