Meditation is the most important skill

Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by Search & Destroy, Jan 9, 2007.

  1. Search & Destroy Take one bite at a time Moderator

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    sounds like he found it less intriguing, and more annoying.

    Whether he responded or not doesn't have much to do with it

    And sure your point makes sense if I said "the most important skill to living." But I left it quite ambiguous
     
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  3. Oxygen One Hissy Kitty Registered Senior Member

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    Your title: "Meditation is the most important skill "

    No qualifiers given. You need to place your conditions on such statements in order to make yourself clearer. It may be important for you to meditate on that to better convey your thoughts.
     
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  5. Search & Destroy Take one bite at a time Moderator

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    I just said that on the third line of my last post. Not sure if you missed that or you're implying there is some golden rule that arguments must meet strict guidelines. The fact is, ambiguity has advantages in certain situations.

    Anyway don't get upset. You post about subsentence isn't necessarily wrong, it just doesn't contribute much to the conversation. It was just obvious and almost irrelevant.

    What would you say the most important intellectual skill is? It would probably go hand in hand with your life's purpose wouldn't it?.
     
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  7. Oxygen One Hissy Kitty Registered Senior Member

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    Ah, now you've specified a set of skills. I was responding to the question you had asked in the first place.

    Intellectual skill? Well, how different would you say meditation is from objective analysis?
     
  8. grover Registered Senior Member

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    But, your dogs, cats, fish, and redneck friend would all get pretty upset if they couldn't move right? So, is it just slightly more complicated than saying that all you need is food and water to be "perfectly happy." And I bet your redneck friend would get very upset if you tried to take away his porn, beer, and truck, right? And if Mikey is anything like the rednecks I know he spends alot of time bitching about his job, judging people with a different skin color, irritated at little things, if you look at Mike closely you'll see that his whole life is spent in an attempt to relieve himself of one god damned agitation after another, the whole situtation is unsatisfactory if you look at it (which animals cant do).
     
  9. Oxygen One Hissy Kitty Registered Senior Member

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    And meditation can somehow provide all this how?
     
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    I think passing your genes on is the most important skill.
     
  11. Ayodhya Registered Senior Member

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    It's not exactly a skill is it?
    Aren't all animals programmed to innately know how to pass on their genes?
     
  12. Roman Banned Banned

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    I dunno, ask your girlfriend

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  13. Ayodhya Registered Senior Member

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    I don't have one.

    Plus, good sex is not necessary for reproduction. All a woman would need to do is lay on her back, think of something else, and let the man do what he needs to.
     
  14. Search & Destroy Take one bite at a time Moderator

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    objective analysis meaning unbiased analysis? If so here is what I've been meaning when I say meditation:

    Meditation is using specific techniques to objectively analyze the ego.
     
  15. Oxygen One Hissy Kitty Registered Senior Member

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    All right. I'd say it can be an important skill, depending on what one's goal is. I think people would be generally better off, but many are content to drift along, merely reacting to the world as an organism might participate in simple stimulus-response actions. They have no ambition or desire to improve their lots in life, therefore it isn't important to them. If they are not happy with where they're at, they tend to accept that unhappiness as the natural way of things or to deny that they are unhappy. To look any deeper would be too much.
     
  16. Search & Destroy Take one bite at a time Moderator

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    subjectively, the importance is pretty low yeah

    Imagine if everyone in the world dedicated an hour a day to meditate. I just see the world as extremely better off

    The root of the world's problems, are all dependent on the ego and its ill-intentions.
     
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    something related to the topic that is worth reading....



    How The Brain Rewires Itself


    Not only can the brain learn new tricks, but it can also change its structure and function--even in old age
     
  18. Ayodhya Registered Senior Member

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    I'm at odds to figuring out what exactly we are talking about.
     
  19. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    I think the topic has been hijacked a little bit! ....LOL!

    But the topic is "Meditation is the most important skill". My very first thought when I read that a few days ago was ......okay, but what do phedophiles meditate about? How 'bout murderers and vicious rapists? Child molestors? What do they meditate about? And is it, as the topic would indicate, the most important skill in those and other such "careers"?

    Meditation, as I know it, is just contemplating some topic/subject with oneself. However, it's usually taken to mean "good things" ....but it ain't necessarily true. One can meditate, contemplate, how to murder someone and get away with it.

    Baron Max
     
  20. Oxygen One Hissy Kitty Registered Senior Member

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    I'm going to change your name to "Mister Sunshine"! lol That's a good point, though.
     
  21. Search & Destroy Take one bite at a time Moderator

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    Yeah I've learned better than to make topics this broad.

    What if I say

    In an objective reality, the most important intellectual skill is to use specific techniques which have shown to be most effective in objectively analyzing the ego?

    Maybe you will spur me to revise that sentence even more until it grants a new, more directed thread.
     
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    Keep searching....you are on the right track...

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  23. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Well, what you (and others) should do is learn to title the topic in a broad sense, then in the body of the post, effectively limit what you wish to discuss. The title of book seldom is longer than two or three words, yet many people feel that they have to include the entire fuckin' text in that title! Drives me fuckin' nuts.

    The title of your post should have been simply; "Meditation". Then in the body of the post should have been, "In an objective reality, the most important intellectual skill is to use specific techniques which have shown to be most effective in objectively analyzing the ego?" See?

    I'm still rather curious how you feel about the psychopath meditating about how to capture, torture, abuse and kill someone? Isn't that meditation, too? And if so, are you advocating it for the psychopaths of the world?

    Baron Max
     

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