Member Selective Banning from Posting in Threads

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This is good. I need not respond here. You are making my case for me.

For anybody that might really give a shit, let me suggest that you can evaluate the facts for yourself.

[thread=42071]Thread - Flawed[/thread] [post=716702]Starting at Post[/post]

[thread=31781]Thread - UniKEF[/thread] [post=716567]Starting at Post[/post]

[thread=42491]Thread - GPS[/thread] [post=717068]Starting at Post[/post]

[thread=42361]Thread - RTT[/thread] [post=716699][Starting at Post[/post]

[thread=40447]Thread - Twin[/thread] [Post=716681]Starting at Post[/post]

[thread=41776]Thread - JR[/thread] [Post=716695]Starting at Post[/post]

Now all these thread involve the same issue of time dilation by SRT. In all these threads Persol has contributed nothing of technical value and has posted unending personal attacks as his defense for the theory of Relativity.

It is becoming clear why so much effort is being made to silence me. Yuriy is calling for major changes to stop me from posting. If I am in error it would be a piece of cake to simply post the correct method for calibrating GPS clocks.

I have posted information by those involved which show that it does not use SR (Einstein Relativity) but LR (Lorentzian Ether Theory) to make it work.

They have wanted to claim GPS as one of their proofs of Relativty but it turns out it actually invalidates SR and they can't stand that. Old MacM must be trivialized at all costs. HeHeHe. Good luck. Your backs are against the wall guys. You can't escape. Just give it up. It only hursts for a little while.

You will feel better when you come clean and start telling the truth.

 

READERS:

Just to clarify who is correct here and offset the feloneous personal attacks that have been made.

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The only relavistic pre-adjustment made to clocks in GPS has nothing to do with relative velocity time dilation affect between clocks.

The clocks are designed to lose 38.4 micro-seconds per day to compensate for "Velocity Relative to Earth" and "Gravitational Red Shift" due to altitude.

The system uses LR not SR by referencing the earth's central inertial frame (its pole) and not motion between orbiting and surface clocks.

See "Time and Position" on page 11.:

http://metrologyforum.tm.agilent.com/pdf/AN1272.pdf

Further these predesigned alterations in earth bound and orbiting clocks operate on a system of UT (Universal Time) and remain within 2 nano-seconds of each other. Tick rate remains fixed from prelaunch to orbit with the exceptions of the designed offset for compenstions as stated. The clock does not slow down due to any velocity relationship to any other clock, only the earth. The clocks are updated each second using earth based UTC:

See Page 8 "Introduction"

http://msp.gsfc.nasa.gov/tdrss/usccs.pdf

Relativists claims of any SR time dilation affect due to relative velocity between clocks is simply false - a lie by liars. Foxes guarding the hen house.

All personal attacks leveled at me and my understandings are clarified here.

They are propaganda and BS.

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Lol... I see, so you're allowed to insult us... but the other way around and somehow we are wrong?

You argue about your same misunderstand OVER and OVER again... and then call anybody who disagrees with you an idiot. Then you start to cry when we return the favor? What a fucking hypocrite.

You seem to be mistaken. We can't stand you CLAIMING that. If you actually had anything to backup your case nobody would mind... but you don't. You just post links to anybody that you think agrees with you and say "RELATIVITY IS DEAD". Then when questioned you just completely ignore the problems pointed out and keep claiming your view is right.

And that's the reason we call you a kook and make fun of you. Nobody can debate you on a rational level because you simply ignore anything you don't agree with. We might as well have some fun making fun of you until we get you so upset you hit your computer, and hopefully break it.



As for your links, they've been discussed in other threads... stop spamming the forum.

 

I agree. However, if you care to look you will see it starts [post=716315]Here[/post]
by Persol making another personal attack and telling everyone that I don't know anything and that I don't know what I'm talking about and then refers to a thread saying Yuriy has proven me wrong.

That is simply false. That thread is open and noone has invalidated anything in that thread. Such distortion and lies cannot be left unchallenged. So I posted the links here to prove Persol is just a liar.

As far as getting somewhere. Ha. The three musketeers don't even try to discuss things they merely make false statements, declarations that they are right and ignore any actual data put before them. I only continue it that it affords me the opportunity to continue to post FACTS which others can then see for themselves.

 

JAMES R

If I were GoofyFish, Then U would have been kicked out of SciForums Long Time back.

Before I get kicked out have I joined http://www.scienceforums.net/.

U cant stop evolution of science in humans anymore JamesR , Tell those aliens U r working for that humans now have services of Raw Think Tank. Albert Eienstien thought humans would nuke their own world . But humans are evolving and we will claim our share of space whether U like it or not. Stop mingling in our evolution, we have right to evolve.
Get the hell off our planet.

 

U all will love this one

http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=38786

 

It's a stupid idea, being able to ban people from a thread. It's just a power trip from someone to lazy or stupid to set up their own forum, or someone who feels they're not popular or interesting enough to attract people to their own forum, so they need to assume control of someone elses.

Simple answer. Get therapy MACM. Learn to deal with differing opinions.

 

RawThinkTank,

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note the diffrence between us and them:

While we are more like "discussion of all things scientific with a reasonable and lax degree of integrity and respectability."

 

It might be nice if you actually knew what you were talking about. The fact is I have a forum, I've managed it for three years. UniKEF happens to be the #1 rated physics forum on MSN out of approx 250 physics forums.

I have another web site without members which outlines my theory.

If you should ever decide to see what it is like to participate in discussions you might find it can be done with grace.

Nobody ever calls another member names on my site. I have yet to have to have acted as a moderator.

There are numerous posts on my site thanking me for the site and how I manage it.

In addition to my own views in fact I host an "Alternative Theories" area and have dozens of people participating. Only a few are in anyway simular. Most are lay persons with really kooky ideas. But I do have some professionals and published people that participate.

I generally don't debate with them but when I see something that can be clarified I diplomatically interject that information. I mostly give them food for thought and let them assimulate that into their thinking.

You are really off base on this one.

 

Right so;

means I'm "off base" with;

does it?

So you've got your power trip, you've got your own forums. They're different from SciForums, let that be eh? Or does the world have to live up to your own personal, arbitrary standards?

 

My post was in RESPONSE to this:

Totally off the wall and false innuendo. This thread is to explore how to deal with persons that do not know how to have a discussion but think they are smart by being smart mouthed and that openly and deliberately post in threads for the intended purpose of trashing the thread.

They are either to stupid or don't realize or may not have enough consideration or care, is that others may like to actually have a discussion.

I deal with differing opinions 100 times a day and never do so in the manner you and others have just demonstrated. You should really be proud. Good job.

Trashing threads because you don't agree is childish and defeats the purpose of even having a forum. Don't particpate if you don't agree.

 

What if the maker of the thread doesn't know how to have a discussion?
Happens frequently here.

 

Depends what you call 'trashing', and realistically, how you expect it to be dealt with. Offending posts can be deleted if a mod agrees it breaches site rules. Repeat offenders can be banned. I don't think you can ask for more. Is getting a bit testy and personal with people who repeatedly post easily refuted trash, 'trashing'?

Any measure to ban or prevent someone from posting can easily be circumvented by mutiple registration, so ultimately, all your proposal would do, is stifle debate, and give the kooks a chance to proselytise, and dodge difficult questions for a while. These places cannot strongly enforce any rule, and exist solely because of the good will of the participants. What perhaps you don't see, is that the bargain is 'I won't rubbish and belittle you, if you don't post preposterous nonsense'. Seems the kooks don't live up to their side of the bargain, so get belittled.

You can wish for liberal Utopia, where everybody thinks everybody has the right to say whatever they want, and never get called stupid, but that isn't human nature, and the fact that you think youneed to exclude people to attain your ideals says a lot.

Anyway, you can impose your own rules on your own forum, if they support that option. If they don't, write your own BBS, but just stop whining about this one.

 

HeHE. We might agree. It is his thread however. Plus as indicated other could open counter threads to post their comments. It simply seperates the wheat from the chaff and members or readers would have an option of which line of thought they wanted to purse.

In the alternative to something like this the other possibility would be to adapt a strict code and inforce it of deleting all posts that are off topic and/or purely personal attacks.