Merry Mithras and Christmas!

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  1. Ayodhya Registered Senior Member

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    (Sorry Q, I didn't know if you were serious!

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    Merry Mithras!
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=7-UI7IxgIIw

    Mithras

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    - A pagan deity originating from Hinduism in the Vedas, representing vegetation, and the "friendly" aspect of the Sun. Eventually, he became more war-like as he spread West as the Persians and Hittites used him. The Romans took Mithras from the Hittites

    - Members celebrated his birthday on December 25th (which was taken from an even older pagan holiday. The older pagan religions believed that if you survived the Winter Solstice on December 21st, it was God's will and it should be celebrated).

    - Had 12 disciples

    - Identified with both the lion and the lamb and as "the good shepherd", "savior", and "Messiah"

    - He could redeem souls into Heaven through a water purification ceremony (similar to baptism)

    - Members of the Mithras Cult symbolically ingested the body and blood of Mithras in a ceremonial concoction of bread and water (some reports use wine)

    - In the catacombs of Rome was found a statue of a baby Mithras seated on the lap of his virgin mother (similar to baby Jesus sitting on the lap of Mary)

    - Mithras was resurrected three days later after his death.

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    - Ummm... I'm too lazy so just take all the statement above and replace the word Mithras with Jesus and I think you got it.


    Note:
    When it came to religion, Romans were very religious tolerant because people belonged to many "faiths", none of which claimed to be the only way to Heaven. It was only Christianity that created dissent amongst the Roman populous with its very close-minded approach to salvation. The civil unrest cause by the Christians is one of the many reasons the Romans disliked them, and "put them before lions" and such.
     
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  3. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, but Jesus is better looking.
     
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  5. Ayodhya Registered Senior Member

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    But... but... Mithras has a cape!
     
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  7. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: Merry Mithras Everybody!
     
  8. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    He was very popular amongst the Roman legion. That makes him bad ass by default.
     
  9. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: No, Mithras was born on December 25th. After all, that makes him born in the sign of Capricorn, but he was the bull of Aries. No god. No Jesus. No savior! Read this an weep, you stupid Christians!
     
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    Medicine woman loves Jesus!....just too woman to admit it!!!

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  11. geeser Atheism:is non-prophet making Valued Senior Member

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    merry mithramas everybody and a happy new year.
     
  12. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    Where are the christians?
     
  13. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Merry Mythramas!

    That's got quite the ring to it.
     
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  14. Ayodhya Registered Senior Member

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    How inventive of you Q!

    I didn't occur to me put the "-mas" instead of the "-ras" at the end. The extra syllable in their is superfluous.
     
  15. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    Marry Christmoses.

    25th December is the day when the "unconquerable sun" defeats the darkness and days start to become brighter.

    Similarly there is a spiritual sun/light (consciousness) within us which defeats the spiritual darkness (unconsciousness, ignorance), and then days start to become brighter.
     
  16. Makaveli Registered Senior Member

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    well its hard for us to reconstruct the daily workings and beliefs of Mithraism.. The rituals wer extremly secret and limited to initiated ppl.we really dont know too much about mithras to say it was were the bibles ideas attributed from. However they all resided in the same region.. likly however it can be jusitfied.


    merry christmas!
     
  17. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    From the video in the OP, it's interesting to watch the reaction of those listening to Stephen Fry when he explains Mithra. Squirming uncomfortably.
     
  18. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    I think the Irish dude is an atheist (a rare breed), he is a fan of several of Richard Dawkins books.
     
  19. Iasion Registered Senior Member

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    Greetings Ayodhya

    Mithras comes up every Christmas

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    Can you please provide the source for this?

    It is a very common claim.

    Yet I have never ever seen any evidence for this from before the time of Jesus.

    All the evidence I have seen for Mithras celebration on the 25th comes from AFTER the time of Jesus.

    Indeed, can you provide any original sources for the general claim of celebrations on the 25th ?

    Note:
    I don't mean recent opinions - I mean the actual documents from BEFORE the time of Jesus.


    Iasion
     
  20. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    Merry Mythmas.

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  21. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: That's a good one!
     
  22. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: I don't love mythological characters. I may like to read about them, but I have no emotional attachment to dragons, unicorns, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or the various and sundry religious icons. When it comes to Jesus, I don't particularly even like the story since none of it really occurred.
     
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    You cannot be so sure Med Woman.
     

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