Military Events in Syria and Iraq Thread #4

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Yazata, Apr 12, 2017.

  1. Schmelzer Valued Senior Member

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    Where do your numbers come from? There is almost on daily basis information about conflicts between the Arabs and the Kurds. Some dead, wounded, taken as hostages or imprisoned are nothing I would notice or find worth to mention here. The body count there is certainly much greater than in Chechnya today, which is regarding security from terrorism comparable to Europe if not better.

    That the Kosovo Albanians, who have with NATO support genocided the Serbians out of Kosovo, want the US protecting them is, btw, obvious, as well as that the Kurds would be no more than the environment of some US base and would have no chance for a separate state, and for genociding the local Arab populations out of the regions with oil, would do everything to get the US support for this. Where you see double standards in comparison with Kosovo is beyond me, both are cases of criminal US wars and US occupation, supporting dubious nationalist movements. International law is in all cases on the side of the state which fights a separatist movement, and against the US, which has started wars of aggression directly to occupy Kosovo, indirectly in Russia by supporting the Chechen jihadists, as well as in Syria, where the US supported Al Qaida and IS, and, after they have lost that war, switched to supporting Kurdish separatists.
     
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    The Turks have started their operation against the Kurds.

    The US occupants seem to have been withdrawn at least from the critical areas.
     
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  5. Schmelzer Valued Senior Member

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    The first days consist mainly of artillery and aircraft attacks near the whole border:

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    But the Turks have also already started to take some villages, with a clear strategic intention: They attack the villages East and West of two important towns, namely Tal Abyad and Ras al Ayn. Both are divided towns, with one part in Turkey, one part in Syria.

    Here four villages East of Tal Abyad claimed to be taken by Turks / pro-Turkish gangs:

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    But there are similar claims also about villages West of Tal Abyad. Similar for Ras al Ayn:

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    There are claims that it has been essentially already encircled.

    An interesting point is that Tal Abyad is essentially an Arab town, Kurds are only a minority there. In other words, Kurds are only occupants here too (as in most of the Southern parts of the SDF-controlled area). This makes it possible to split the Kurdish controlled area into parts along the line to Raqqa, which is, similarly, Arab.
     
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    Found two much better maps from Tel Abyad:

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    as well as Ras al Ayn:

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    Actually, there are claims that the pro-Turkish forces have established control over the border crossing point at Ras al Ayn and they seem to be inside the town.
     
  8. Schmelzer Valued Senior Member

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    Today a key event has happened - the Kurds have made an agreement with the Syrian government, with Russia as the guarantee. The Syrian army has already started to move. They have secured the border line with the pro-Turkish forces West of the Euphrat and secured the key bridge from Manbidsh to the Eastern part. They have also secured Tabka (airbase, town and dam) and is moving toward Raqqa. They have also already taken full control of Hasaka and Quamishly (which were up to now only partially controlled by the Syrian army). Other towns which seem to be already under Syrian control: Mansura, Ain Issa.

    Moreover, the SAA is crossing the Euphrat near Deir Ezzor.

    The US seems to have decided to leave the Eastern part of the Euphrat immediately, and remains one month more in Al Tanf. France has also decided to leave.
     
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  9. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    I'd have used:
    "with Russia as the guarantor"
     
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  10. Schmelzer Valued Senior Member

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    A map from today:

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    There are claims that the pro-Turkish gangs have started an operation from the North in the direction of Manbidsh. Implausible and dangerous. We will see. The crossing at the Euphrat near Deir Ezzor is nonsense, given that near Deir Ezzor the Syrian army already controls some part of the other side, it means nothing but enforcements, but no particular action.

    There are claims of Syrian troops in the outskirts of Kobane, supported by pictures which show nothing one could geolocalize, thus, unclear.
     
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  11. Schmelzer Valued Senior Member

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    There are now official (Syrian TV) claims that the Syrian army has entered Manbidsh. There is a story that they were in Manbidsh much earlier, but they have waited until all the US forces left the town before officially declaring that. On the other hand, there is not yet any geo-localizable support for this, and there are sources that deny this.

    Whatever, the Syrian army has taken control of the environment of Manbidsh, the US is in the process of leaving or has already left that area.

    There have been also first claims that the Syrian army has reached Raqqa.

    The attack of the pro-Turkish gangs against Manbidsh has appeared to be mainly fake, there was some shooting at the borderline, that's all. Given that on the Turkish side are not Turkish troops, but only pro-Turkish jihadist gangs, the danger is not that big.

    But there was a meeting between the Russian MoD Shoigu and the Turkish MoD, and there was clearly something they had to discuss.

    We will see the results of that meeting, together with the real content of the agreements between the Syrian government and the Kurds, during the next days.
     

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