My mate has mental problems. Please post serious advice.

Discussion in 'About the Members' started by visceral_instinct, Oct 30, 2009.

  1. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

    Meh, I'm technically out of Sciforums, but since I checked out this forum to see what's happening... and since I think you have a serious problem... and I have close experience with this...

    It looks like a classic multi-personality disorder.

    The other personality in most cases is very violent and evil. It thinks about doing great harm either to itself (most often) or to others. If not treated it can end in suicide, and frequently does. It may also be a sign of a developing schizophrenia.

    So you should consult a psychiatrist asap, because it is very, very important to start the treatment in early stages, or you may lose the person(ality) you love.
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  3. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

    What rubbish! She cannot diagnose him and neither can you nor anyone here. She cannot consult with a psychiatrist as a psychiatrist can only tell her to bring him in and if he doesn't want to go in then there is nothing a psychiatrist can tell her as a proper psychiatrist doesn't diagnose sight-unseen.
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  5. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

    Exactly what I'm saying. Please learn to understand, what you have read, before replying.

    Either she convinces the guy to visit a psychiatrist and appropriate treatment is prescribed (usually in the form of medication together with psychiatric sessions) or she risks losing him to madness or suicide.
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  7. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

    If he becomes a threat to himself or others, most localities have provisions for the use of psychiatric restraint orders which can be written by local police. It may be an option if it comes to that. And hopefully it won't.
  8. kira Valued Senior Member


    How do you know that he already has obsessive compulsive disorder? Has he been diagnosed for it? If so, do you know who is his therapist? Have you asked him to meet the therapist again? Maybe you can offer him to accompanying him. If he is not willing to go, maybe you can go to his therapist and ask for the therapist advice what to do with your friend, after the permission of your friend. Also, is he under medication? Does he take his medication well? Maybe you can remind him to take the prescribed medicines. What about his family, is there anyone close with him in his family? Maybe his sister or brother? Are you also close with them? Maybe you can ask their opinion, too. There is also a few advice here:
    How to Help a Friend With Mental Illness

    Things You'll Need:

    * Patience
    * Acceptance
    * Unconditional Love

    Step 1

    Mental illnesses are biological brain disorders and cannot be overcome by sheer willpower or a change of mind.
    Step 2

    Treatment is imperative. The economic cost of untreated mental illness is more than one billion dollars each year. Without treatment the consequences for the individual and society are staggering.
    Step 3

    The best treatment for a mental illness is a combination of medication and psychological treatment. As a loved one you can help by making sure your friend or family is getting there prescribed medications and taking them. Also by making sure doctor's appointments are kept.
    Step 4

    Finally, just being a friend is really all you can do. By letting that person know you care means a lot. Even if it doesn't seem like it at the time.​
  9. Doreen Valued Senior Member

    There is also the risk that the psychiatric treatment will do him damage. Psychiatry is a very philosophically naive profession and has a history of hallucinating 'syndromes' and treating these with pharmaceuticals, when other approaches would have been better. You don't need to go far back in time to see how PTSD was misdiagnosed and people ended up on drugs for decades rather than deal with the trauma. Just because a certain outlook is dominant at a particular time does not mean it is right or even safe. Psychiatric treatment might be the right thing for this person or it might not be.
  10. Doreen Valued Senior Member

    This is an incredibly rare disorder, so the odds are very small that he'd ever get this diagnosis. I would also disagree that it 'looks like' mpd. I can think of a number of more likely diagnoses. And if the guy is a teenager, the possibilities open up even more.
  11. Doreen Valued Senior Member

    I realize you started this with questions, but it ends up as advice to someone who is a friend to someone with a mental illness. We don't know this guy 'has' one.
  12. kira Valued Senior Member

    Well, that's true, we don't know, that's why I asked

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    If he doesn't have one, the rest of my comment is actually irrelevant, she is free to skip the rest.

    Also, in addition to my previous post:

    - if your friend has not meet any therapist, maybe you could look for one. My suggestion is: open yellow page, fine phone number of nearest hospital in your town, phone them and ask them which number to contact for mental illness cases; once you are in contact, ask them whether you can arrange an appointment for a friend, because the said friend cannot do so by himself; if appointment can be made, tell your friend if he is interested to come; give him some time to think about it (don't push); if he isn't willing, cancel the appointment.

    - is your friend in an abnormal / unusual condition? Like, does he face heavy problem lately? Maybe you can ask him to go have some vacation, something that can makes him relax. Say, whole day visit to nearest park, zoo, aquarium, or somewhere peaceful (nice landscape), etc. Maybe if he feel refresh he'll be able to do something to help himself.

    But then again, I don't know exactly the condition of your friend, might as well my ideas are not applicable. My point is that, cases of mental illness can only be taken care of by professional, so best is to take him to one.
  13. John99 Banned Banned

    we cant help your friend.

    1. we are on the internet and never met your friend

    2. we never met your frien, so we dont know them.
  14. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

    @Kira, yes, he is diagnosed as OCD.

    I don't think he has MPD. People with that don't usually know they have other personalities (I could be wrong, I don't know much about psychology...)
  15. christa Frankly, I don't give a dam! Valued Senior Member

    off topic!! on the 24th I go in to see the head dr. haha... I will get back on my meds and hopefully start feelin and doin better
  16. mugaliens Registered Member

    VI - As it takes professional mental health experts several visits before they'll make even a simple diagnosis, these conjectural "diagnoses" offered in response to a few sentences are just so much junk.

    Best approach is to tell him you care about it, but are concerned, not a professional, think he needs one, and will accompany him if he'd like. If he balks or gets upset, just reaffirm you care about him, are there to support him, and you simply want what's best for the both of you.

    If he resists, back off and seek a professional yourself to enlist their help in helping him.
  17. christa Frankly, I don't give a dam! Valued Senior Member

    when I was first dignosed, I just had one meeting with a councler, then right after she walked me into the drs office, and I walked out with rxs
  18. Thoreau Valued Senior Member

    Dude, I'm in kinda the same situation. My friend is very obviously bipolar. And in the past few months it's gotten worse. His anger has skyrocketed. He throws HUGE fits over the smallest things. Also, one day he will wake up and be happy, the next day, sad; all for no reason whatsoever. Nothing has changed, yet his mood constantly does. Also, because of his anger, he has gotten increasingly verbally and physically violent toward me and my pets. A prime example of this is that just today he hit me with a porcelean (sp?) plate, breaking it. (He hit me with a plate because I asked him to turn down the piano). He has also hit my dog many times in the past few weeks. My dog, who once loved him to death, is now scared to death of him. I'm reaching my last straws everyday. I've been pressuring him to go seek help, but everytime I mention he goes completely ballistic and explodes. He needs help pretty bad, but I don't know any way to get it for him since he is not willing to. I thought about video taping his actions and having the police take care of it, but locking him in a jail cell won't do anything. He's become dangerous. I just wish I knew what to do to help him.

    EDIT: And I believe him to be bipolar because I have very thorough experience with the disorder. My uncle was severely bipolar and I watched as the disease progressed. And I also watched the difference of when he took his meds and when he stopped. I'm very familiar with the signs and symptoms. It's not fun.
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2009
  19. Ellie Banned Banned

    People with mental problemns make me uneasy. Always did.

    That said, it depends on the mental problem. If they get too personal or start making demands then i drop them like a bad habit.
  20. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member


    you could video tape it and have him watch it. sometimes shoving a mirror in someone's face when they're acting poorly makes a big impression.
  21. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

    Your boy is suffering from obsessive thoughts, somewhat different than OCD but not uncommon for those afflicted. There are several good websites and books on the subject. Learning about it is good therapy if one wants to be rid of them. Good luck.
  22. betterlife translator Registered Senior Member

    You'd better try to find the reason of these problems. Perhaps he is unhappy with his job.:scratchin:

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