Near death experiences

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Do you think that Black Holes are involved in recycling of energy and matter?

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  1. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    That's it?

    It seems most likely that the NDE is purely subjective
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    (that being "said")
    herein nde is referred to as a syndrom:

    from
    https://www.clinicaloncology.com/Cu...-Treatment-Of-a-Common-Medical-Syndrome/53189
     
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  5. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Some doctors are quite fascinated with this phenomena.


    https://www.near-death.com/psychology/triggers.html

     
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  7. river

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  8. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Placing a higher value on life would not necessarily mean that we begin to treat insects like the Jainist Buddhists do.....
    I guess the key is to realize that all life forms do move on into a higher energetic and better environment than this earth is.

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/pets.html
     
  9. river

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    There is an experience .

    NDE is experienced by many , in the many , but not known by the many more .
     
  10. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Many of the doctors and the psychologists who studied this are actually rather impressed with the possible positive uses.

    Bright Lights, Big Mystery | Psychology Today
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200910/bright-lights-big-mystery?page=4
     
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  12. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    True... all of this takes me more so into philosophy than science!
     
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  13. river

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    The World of Life Energy . The Existence of Life as an Energy is obvious . Its Not a Philosophy . But a truth .
     
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  14. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    It's a lot easier than if one had a death experience.

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    The commonality is that one was very sick/injured and almost died and was experiencing a reduced oxygen level (just as right before someone blacks out). They see tunnel vision and that's where the hallucination starts and that's what they report back on.
     
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  15. river

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    Yet they leave their body . And the look Upon . The procedure .
     
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  16. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Hint...they don't really. The "Amazing Randy", a well known sceptic, had such an experience when he was really ill. Even though he spent his life dispelling a range of nonsense he had to question himself after this experience for a moment.

    He felt that he "rose" above the bed and he could even describe the bed cover until he told this story to his "life partner" who pointed out that he was describing a quilt that was often on the bed but that day, a different one was on the bed.

    Our minds aren't cameras or computers. That's not how they work.
     
  17. river

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    Our minds capture images , Neurologically .
     
  18. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Even when they aren't reality. Didn't you read what I wrote?
     
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    That is one of the phenomena that grabbed my attention about this phenomena back in 1989 or 1990 when I began to study these accounts....

    https://www.theguardian.pe.ca/news/...ousness-continue-after-our-brain-dies-303178/

     
  20. river

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    I did . What makes Randy the final thought ?
     
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  21. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Our brains are just good at filling in the blanks We have an optic nerve coming into the back of our eyes, for example. The nerve comes in at a slightly different spot in each eye. This leaves a blank spot in our vision but the brain fills in the missing parts.

    We can test that and most of us have done those tests to verify our blind spots.

    In similar fashion our brains treat actual experience and replaying experience in our mind as virtually the same thing. You can learn a skill (juggle two balls for example) and you learn how to do it but you aren't good at it yet. Before you go to bed you visual the juggling technique a few times, you do the same the next morning while taking a shower and when you next try to juggle two balls you are much better than the last time you actually tried.

    This is a well known technique for just about any subject matter. If you are learning to fly a plane, the lessons are expensive and you are told to use this technique between lessons. It's the equivalent of taking a few more lessons to get additional practice.

    There are survival reasons that the brain works this way. It's not a camera or a computer.

    Those people who rise above the bed and observe everything aren't really observing. Their brains are filling in the gaps based on prior experience. For example if just as someone is having a near death experience on an operating table (and later comes back to describe it) all the doctors and nurses were to quickly put on bright red lab coats and surgical gowns...that wouldn't be described.

    The patient would say that he arose above the stainless steel table, everyone was wearing white, etc. That's because his brain is just filling in the gaps and he has no experience with everyone wearing bright red clothes in that setting.
     
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  22. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    which is why
    it is better to have someone else proof-read your work.
     
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  23. NancyLouise Registered Member

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    I am still curious.
    Why do you use PI in your equation?
     
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