Nothing from Something?

Discussion in 'The Cesspool' started by John J. Bannan, Jul 10, 2008.

  1. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry to be a party pooper but existence is not a property.
     
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  3. John J. Bannan Registered Senior Member

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    I am not sure how you would get a handle on multiple nothingnesses in order to create energy from nothing.
     
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  5. John J. Bannan Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, nothingness has the property of being able to exist side by side with another nothingness.
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    lol I give up..
     
  8. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    And the property of being able to write zero in an equation doesn't make one zero distinguishable from another.
     
  9. ashura the Old Right Registered Senior Member

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    Well, if we were to have a vacuum that was as close as we could get to a perfect vacuum as possible, it's contents would be pretty close to nothing right? And if you had another separate exactly similar vacuum, that vacuum's contexts would be pretty close to nothing right? Suppose you were somehow able to combine the contents of those two vacuums together without introducing any outside "something" agents. Are you telling me then that energy would be created upon the combination of the two vacuums?
     
  10. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    He said himself that nothingness is everywhere, in between the particles.
     
  11. John J. Bannan Registered Senior Member

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    Certainly existence itself is a quality or attribute. If zero is nothing, than a property of zero would be that it can exist side by side with another zero.
     
  12. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    But zero isn't nothing.. or is it ?
     
  13. ashura the Old Right Registered Senior Member

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    He seems to be limited to one thread. If you had a choice, which would you ban?
     
  14. draqon Banned Banned

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    no, not really.

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  15. John J. Bannan Registered Senior Member

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    A zero is distinguishable from another zero, the moment you separate them with an addition sign.
     
  16. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    It's not the zeros that become distinguishable but their positions.
     
  17. John J. Bannan Registered Senior Member

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    No, because I am not sure how you would get a handle on multiple nothingnesses. I doubt that you can create multiple nothingnesses by using two containers. The containers themselves are created from matter, which has been created through the collisions of multiple nothingnesses. Simply surrounding empty space with matter does mean you can corral nothingness.
     
  18. John J. Bannan Registered Senior Member

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    True, in a sense. The zeros are still zeros, but one zero is on the right and the other zero is on the left of the addition sign. So, you can distinguish the zeros based on their position.
     
  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    What if I swap them without you looking ? (like someone else already said)

    To be truly distinguishable they have to have a unique label (property), but they don't.
     
  20. ashura the Old Right Registered Senior Member

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    ...but you just said matter is nothingness. What does it matter if empty space (nothing) is surrounded by matter.

    Screw it, this is getting beyond ridiculous. I completely give up.
     
  21. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    As do I..
     
  22. draqon Banned Banned

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    so if we all just think this is ridiculous trash why are we here discussing it?
     
  23. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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    I haven't read the whole thread, just the first and last 3 pages, but is it basically someone repeating the same 4 phrases while others tell them the flaws inherent in those 4 phrases?
     

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